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It is just so incredibly simple.
Democrats should treat Fox News and its correspondents as they would RNC Hecklers - period. Nothing else, but hecklers.
We all agree they are not legitimate, so why would you try to change them. Isn't that the same as asking the RNC to start running candidates that will canvass with the Democrats?
It's not a complex issue and the more that we can show some true party discipline on this matter, the better will be the pervasive view of the right wing echo chamber as nothing but obvious propaganda to all but the most un-intelligent and/or the most rabidly loyal.
Jerry Mazza,
Associate Editor,
OnlineJournal.com.
New York City.
When Dennis Kucinich took Ted Koppel to task for the stupid, horse race instead of substantive questions he was asking during the 2004 Democratic primary debate, ABC pulled their reporters from his campaign the next day.
Senators and congressmen can do press conferences on serious proposals or investigations of major Bush administration crimes and most people would never know they happen because they are ignored by the media.
It is time to use this powerful weapon against the media itself. The Democrats could start with a month without Fox News boycott, and go on regular networks to explain why they are doing it, using Outfoxed clips.
At a minimum, they should draw attention to the coordination of talking points through the Fox Memo and Grover Norquist's weekly right wing media meeting.
To be specific:
Elected Dems across the board should boycott Fox. They should be told to do so by the leaders of the party. This should become news. This will force an open discussion about the network and its practices, and it will become known as the joke that it is even to Joe Sixpack. "But how is this done?"
1.All Dems boycott it and its "reporters" are not allowed at Dem functions and events.
2.It becomes common knowledge that Fox is being deliberately frozen out by Dems.
3.The freezeout becomes its own news story. 60 Minutes does a story on this in which elected Dems are asked on camera to explain if Fox has been frozen out (yes). When asked why, they explain it in clear and unambiguous language (not a legitimate news organ).
4.The world sees Fox for what it is and Joe Sixpack is now too embarrassed to even admit to his coworkers and friends that he watches it because this makes him look like an idiot. Ratings slowly dwindle.
So, your target is the Democrats who keep appearing on Fox for more and more abuse. If its abuse they love, begin abusing them for appearing on Fox.
and that is not against the law."
The Democrats could start with a month without Fox News boycott. I'd love to see that happen, I'm fed up with demoncrats and could care less about hearing any more of their lies and deceit.
I changed my party affiliation and voted republican.
You people are dangerous, you'll eventually see that.
Even tho' the majority of congress accepts huge amounts of money from lobbyists, there must be some congress persons who are accomplishing some good.
BIG changes are coming,
a new light is entering the world:
www.share-international.org
Mona LaVine
Films For Peace
Santa Monica
Please, please, do not continue with this campaign - it would only benefit Faux News to give them undeserved attention.
Why is no one in congress addressing this issue?
By not taking sides you/we stay above that fray and maintain independence and thus, credibility.
Keep on fighting because the right is collapsing.
But if you can supply the needed information, I will be happy to sign petitions against those who advertise on FOX, and to refuse to buy their products, and to send them emails stating that I won't buy their products.
I agree with the idea that Democratic candidates should not appear on FOX programs, but I also think it is effective to let advertisers know that many do not approve of their support for an organization that promotes hate and suspicion toward Muslims, tries to smear a candidate because of his middle name, etc.
This is not just about Dems vs. Fox, there are a lot of us independents who think FUX news is the worst thing to happen to truth ever. So, foxattacks.com can do a lot to help bring awareness to the majority of Americans, independent thinkers.
Additionally, being an obviously manipulating media voice, they are actually serving a positive role of making obvious the huge problem our country has in the toxicly biased ownership of the sources that feed us our information mind food (not to mention the sources of our physical body food). For example, those owning the Science Channel subtly but effectively putting out pro-religious right anti-science propaganda.
America, just certified by UNICEF as dead last of the 21 industrial countries in the health and safety of our children, is becoming even dumber.
FOX is not a legitimate Press org.
Additionally, from my point of view, the only unique justification for the United States as a political entity is the Constitution and its Bill of Rights and the historic progressive struggle for universal application of its tenets. Liberals tend to support it even when inconvenient; Conservatives tend to dismiss its guarantees of civil rights whenever it becomes inconvenient to their own notions of religious or political rectitude. Fox is shallow and pretentious. Let them be hung by their own petard.
You've got NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNN on the left, where's the unbalance?
You just don't want anyone having another opinion that doesn't match your distorted Hitler views. That's the real issue, and it must really be getting to you if you are trying to shut down a tv station but more importantly our right for free speech.
Pissing up a rope, you'll never win. Go home, pout about it, turn the freakin channel.
should ignore them and not participate in
their absurd programs. Let them preach to
their choir. Without the other side, they have nothing to divide.
Suggestion for Robert Greenwald and his team - Democracy Now this morning discussed how the subject of torture is being sold as a great idea to Americans by using Fox TV shows like "24" and others. Please look into how you might expose how entertainment is being used as a propaganda tool by the Bush Administration and the Republican Party in addition to the news media.
Stop crying and whinning. For too long the left has controlled the media.
Tim Russert-worked for Democrats
Chris Matthews- worked for Democrats-Jimmy Carter and O'neil
George Stephanopoulos- worked for Democrats-Clinton
and the list goes on and on.
The only reason you don't like Foxnews is because the left can no longer lie to the american people via the media. The left lies that are spread through the media are now challenged and you poor liberals don't like that.
Isn't amazing Liberals, how you don't mind freedom of speech and the press, as long as the speech and press agree with your left wing views.
Stalin, Hitler, Mao Tsung would all be proud of you.
GINA !! Please Wake Up ~ it's 9:31 AM, 21st century. :-)
I am very awake, my eyes are wide open. It is the 21st century and You will not take away my freedom of speech rights because I disagree with your political views. You people are losing your base and your mind, that is why this is an issue. People are waking up to the left wing liberal crowd and their very distorted views. Hatred is rampant in this country because of you conspiracy cess pool dwellers.
You have no respect for our country, our constitution or our freedom. Bit by bit you are trying to take it away. What is it again you are trying to do here? Remove a news channel and their Freedom of Speech rights, because it doesn't jive with your views.....is that it?
Amrita, as far as connecting the dots.......lmao, please get a new line and do some history reading yourself, especially about what those tyrants did to those who didn't agree with their way of thinking. I dunno, maybe you could start by googling gas chambers, torture, jews, kurds, serbs.....etc.
I don't need to view left wing conspiracy films to brain wash me or cloud my way of thinking when it's put out there to play on our emotions and benefit someone's pocket. Am I a kool-aid drinker.......no, I am not. I don't think the US is a perfect country, there are many issues that discourage me. But I believe in the US constitution and our right to freedom.
Apparently you're as clueless as those who think they are going to shut down a freaking national news channel.
Bravo Carlos, well said!
Carlos said:
you pathetic moonbats....I am wondering when will you guys put out the same website to attack left wing bias on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, PBS, New York Times, Washington Times.
Stop crying and whinning. For too long the left has controlled the media.
Tim Russert-worked for Democrats
Chris Matthews- worked for Democrats-Jimmy Carter and O'neil
George Stephanopoulos- worked for Democrats-Clinton
and the list goes on and on.
The only reason you don't like Foxnews is because the left can no longer lie to the american people via the media. The left lies that are spread through the media are now challenged and you poor liberals don't like that.
Isn't amazing Liberals, how you don't mind freedom of speech and the press, as long as the speech and press agree with your left wing views.
Stalin, Hitler, Mao Tsung would all be proud of you.
Prizgar and Ramsgate are on to something. As long as Fox won’t be truthful, Democrats do themselves a huge injustice, by going on that network. It is noble to attempt to reach the uninformed. But, if everything you say is going to be twisted by some spin doctor to support a one-sided bias, what’s the point? I support the boycott idea 100%.
Here’s the rub. I’m no psychologist, but it seems pretty clear that boycotting Fox will only shed light on the issue to those who actually watch the other news outlets. How do you reach Gina who is too ignorant or too hypocritical to acknowledge the other side? Is she afraid of the truth exposing the right-wing agenda or is she too ignorant to know how rediculous she sounds? Either way, it sounds like she feels very safe in her little “Fox world” and people like her may tend to not watch anything that is not right-wing based in it’s rhetoric. Gina can’t make an educated decision on what is true, because she refuses to listen to any point of view that she doesn’t share. Gina reminds me of a child running away with their ears covered screaming “la la la la,” so they won’t hear what is being said. If she won’t come out of her shell to openly listen to both sides, she is probably too stupid to understand it and trying to reach her is a complete waste of time.
I am certain that some of the Ginas out there might admit when they are wrong, if they can keep their hands off the remote long enough to realize what they are witnessing. The realy stupid ones will turn the channel, for fear of the truth tearing down the BS wall that Fox has helped them build around themselves.
I can’t tell if Gina is ignorant or stupid. Stupid is not being able to understand. Ignorant is not having all the facts in order to make an educated choice on what to believe. I suspect that Gina is only ignorant. But, because she has admitted she doesn’t want to hear both sides, I would not want to waste my time trying to help her understand.
I guess my rambling here was meant to say that we can’t help all the Ginas out there, if they don’t want to see outside of their self-imposed realities. So, focus on the ones that can comprehend the truth. Boycott Fox!!!
Over at Fox, if it takes torture to prevent those heathen terrorists, well, that's just fine, and the only people who need to worry about having their phone lines bugged are people with something to hide!
But Fox News gets it, and when we watch, we can get it too--just like in that old Merle Haggard song--"I'm proud to be an Okie from Muskogee." Smile at that silver-haired lady who greets you at the Walmart door. She gets it too.
Democrats. Fox is the other side of the story that the socialists Democrats don't want you to hear. They have all of the print & TV media
sewd up. Talk Radio is the best hope of exposing the Democrats Lies. What happened to Air America, the liberal lie show on radio, IT
FOLDED! People who THINK don't listen to the Lefts nonsense for very long before tuning out!
In a civilized society, given the number of hours spent in front of the TV, there is a social obligation to the paid subscribers, especially young viewers, to behave in a responsible, respectful manner as they are media and corporate role models.
The talk show hosts on the Fox network are very poor role models. They pose as educated, white, middle aged adults, yet behave more rudely than 3 a year old throwing a temper tantrum, or a bunch of school yard bullies. Are these the behavioral role models we want entering our living rooms?
Thus, I think it's important to include the "carriers" in our "get your act together" campaign. I suggest a boycott. Imagine their reactions if we all suspended services for one month--stating Fox News Network as the cause?
These days, I have all my "untainted news" by good role models delivered to my door, via my iTunes podcast directory.
I think we should also lobby Congress to provide more oversight of the FCC and go back to the ownership rules of two decades ago. And, we should demand publicly fund public broadcasting, so responsible journalists, doing their jobs properly, are rewarded instead of living hand to mouth.
And your assertation that we have no respect for the constitition. You are delusional. This president is the one who doesn't respect the constitution. Elimination of Posse Comitatas? Federalization of the National Guard. He's one step away from declaring martial law.
And I won't even get into habeus corpus...
Open your eyes to what this president, and his mouthpiece, Fox News, is doing to this country and this world.
I sent this letter to all the So-Called News Networks. I realize its off topic but you would send it too if you had a relative on his Third Tour of duty in Iraq!!
Tom
To: MSNBC & CNN
From: Concerned Former Viewer
WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE “NEWS” MEDIA?
When is the NEWS media going to start reporting REAL NEWS again?
When did CNN rename their network to Celebrity Non-News Network?
When did MSNBC change their network acronym to mean Mentally Senseless News aBout Celebrities?
And forget about FAUX as they are merely an Administration Puppet Network!
Don’t believe me? Lets think back, shall we?
Think back to all the in-depth coverage the news media wasted with their coverage of Tom Cruise jumping on Oprah’s couch.
Remember the round the clock, non-stop, 24/7, non-news coverage about the Missing Bride in Aruba on every so-called “news” station?
Look at the recent round the clock, 24/7, non-news coverage about a women astronaut in a love triangle who drove 900 miles - in a diaper - from Texas to Florida.
Now we have the round the clock, 24/7, non-news coverage that continues to this day about some Playboy Stripper who is dead already! Oh, that right. She was rich and not legless like the wounded soldiers who are being mistreated at Walter Reed’s Building 18; so that makes it more “newsworthy"!
Oh, and let us never forget the "Very Important" gibber gabber that is reported as “news”, which continues to this day, about Britney Spears shaving her freaking head bald? Who can forget the round the clock coverage? How can I ever live from now on? I'm Devastated! NOT!!
These are just a few of the senseless, wasted time items that get reported round-the-clock as "news". Every minute taken to cover these worthless stories is one less minute for the “news media” to report the “real news” to its viewers.
Meanwhile, while the inept media corpSE slept…
We have 21,500+ soldiers getting deployed to Iraq in a SURGE. But how many of you have heard one word about the extra 20,000+ troops that will go with this surge as supporting troops, which means it will really be about 50,000 troops that are getting sent with this surge? Those "real" numbers continue to go UNreported!
US “News” Networks and Papers have yet to report what The Independent newspaper of the UK reported back on January 7, 2007. With six articles about it that day, The Independent reported how the major oil companies will be getting 30-Year Contracts to drill for oil in Iraq and will be able to keep 70+ percent of the profits. Do a Google of the Major US Papers and TV Networks about this. Surprise, surprise! How many of you have heard even a single word about this on these Celebrity Networks?
And you believed the war was for Iraqi Freedom and had nothing to do about OIL??
We have Cheney fleeing the country to Asia while his former chief of staff is about to be found guilty for outing a Covert CIA NOC Agent. Why did The NY Times hold off on their article that was suppose to get printed on Monday of this week about Cheney's involvement in the Libby trial? I had to find that out on the Raw Story website as the TV News media had no time for it!
And now, thanks to the Dana Priest reports, we have news about Walter Reed Hospital being found to have horrific conditions in Building 18. And with all of this, Bush, Congress, The Pentagon and Four-Star Generals all claim to “know nothing” about this as if they were Schultz or Klink on Hogan’s Heroes!!
Have all you warmongers and war supporters with your One Dollar Yellow Ribbon magnets on your car’s bumper that read "I Support Our Troops” called your Representative and Senators and screamed at them for allowing this type of treatment to happen to our wounded soldiers?
What? You say you haven’t heard about these REAL NEWS articles? Oh, you must be a US Television Network News Watcher.
I strongly suggest you shut your television off and start reading the Internet News; specifically Foreign Newspapers and start watching various Foreign News Podcasts to get your daily dose of “THE REAL NEWS”!!
Tom
I guess my rambling here was meant to say that we can’t help all the Ginas out there, if they don’t want to see outside of their self-imposed realities. So, focus on the ones that can comprehend the truth. Boycott Fox!!!
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Who's truth? Yours, isn't that calling the kettle black? You want to shut down fox news because it's not showing the reality of your self-imposed views?
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lol, @ delusional. You post that junk calling me delusional, stupid, ignorant. Like I said, a cess pool of hatred and conspiracy miscreants.
Thank You all for proving my point. I can accuse you of the same thing you claim fox does, just by reading your responses and this statement "if they don’t want to see outside of their self-imposed realities", isn't that what you are accusing Fox News of doing? You're upset because I don't see the world the same way you view it or according to your reality?
You are pissing up a rope and you can't handle the truth nor another side of the equation. There are not enough of you to do any damage to fox or it's sponsors.
It's America and I can watch what I wish to while at the same time being called stupid, delusional and ignorant by left wing liberals demoncrats trying to push their views on me.
This is how you guys work and live, accusing people of being stupid, delusional and ignorant even though you don't have a clue as to who they are. That's ok, you've proven once again how afraid you are of anyone has a view different from yours and wanting to shut them down because of it.
PS
I really like Glenn Beck too. Is he next?
Once again, Thank You all for proving my points.
Are you all a bunch of college kids here?
He has offered the same to Blair, upon his retirement from politics.
And then there's the third ally, John Howard in Australia. One better understands Howard's attacking Obama as a Murdoch ploy... spike the race angle from offstage, down-under. Then echo it 'innocently' through the Halls of FOXUSA. Howard is covered apparently, otherwise why drive himself further down in the OZ polls? He looks like a fool there. He's investing in his future... with News Corp.
Leaders who took their countries into an illegal war against the popular will, in collusion with FOX/News Corp Media, are given a seat on the board when thrown out, by a reactionary globalist billionaire owner... Ring any alarms??
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References:
Spain's Aznar joins Murdoch's News Corp Board:
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/greenslade/2006/06/...
Blair Offered Seat:
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/greenslade/2006/07/...
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While at Davos, Rupert Murdoch was asked if his News Corp. managed to shape the agenda on the war in Iraq, Murdoch said: "No, I don't think so. We tried." Asked by Charlie Rose for further comment, he said: "We basically supported the Bush policy in the Middle East…but we have been very critical of his execution."
Remember that among the directives for hotels issued by VP Cheney's travel staff was the insistence that a TV be on in every room of the suite, and that all be tuned to FOX News.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/09/polit...
I hate to think so, but if it's true, that information should come out early.
I understand that there was some fallout at Fox from the "madrassa" piece. Not much of one, but one nevertheless.
The message from the Democrats to Fox should be: smear me at your own peril. I'll deal with you on a professional basis only.
In the meantime those of us who are outraged by this unfair and unbalanced misuse of public airways, how do we get the names of local advertisers for the worst shows?
There was a radio station lately whose broadcasters screamed and yelled about people who should be assassinated and other hate drivel that used to be illegal on the public airways. The advertisers were identified and clips of the broadcasts were sent to them. The advertisers pulled their ads.
Advertisers can easily be gotten to when the facts are known. Who wants their product identified with hate mongers and liers?
In other words, don't go after the whole network,just the worst ones and identify exactly what was broadcast that was so egregious.
Also, for those of you who drink the Fox piss and think it's nectar: Air America is alive and well. In fact there are many progressive talk shows doing well around the country and getting stronger all the time.
Liberals are not successful conspirators because we all think for ourselves and do disagree with each other. We are smart enough to check out news sources for their veracity and will call them on it when they screw up. We get our news from many sources.
Gina - Stalin, Mao and other dictators controlled their press because they were in charge of their countries. Fox is the public relations arm of the Bush Administration. It broadcasts their daily talking points, interviews government-approved "experts", discredits and smears anyone who disagrees, just like Stalin's TASS.
Furthermore, isn't just not watching a channel that you don't agree with good enough? Why work your ass off to get advertisers to move to other channels. Fox has a much of a right to broadcast their right wing bias as CNN has the right to broadcast their left wing bias. If you don't like it, tune them out. I choose to tune out CNN everyday, because I don't agree with their particular bias.
This whole concept of not watching (or buying) things you don't like is called capitalism and it works. If everyone in the world stopped watching Fox, well then the channel would cease to exist because it wouldn't be profitable or possible to keep the channel open. So don't fight capitalism.
BTW, Air America is struggling to make ends meet last time I check, mostly because people tuned them out BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT THEIR CRAP!
So psst... do something TUNE THEM OUT IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT THEY ARE SAYING!
No, I guess that you would not - because hey, you agree with them.
If the right is collapsing why then did FoxNews become the most highly watched news network?? Its because the Dems won the last election because people stopped supporting Bush's Iraq Strategy not because they don't want small government values.
So... psst, I'm doing something now, watching FOX NEWS!!!
Liberals cant' stand people that disagree with their views, even though Liberals claim the tolerance and open minded flags. It is well known that Liberals are only tolerant and open minded towards people that agree with them. Only a Liberal would call this being tolerant and open minded.
It is fun to come in here and read what the left wing moonbats have to say.
You see this is the problem, in the past the media would have been able to destroy Bush and end the Iraq War like they did with Nixon and Vietnam. People forget that the Tet offensive was a massive military success for America and the South Vietnamese, but Walter Kronkite and his accomplices couldn't have that, so they called it a huge defeat and failure. Their false reporting about the Tet Offensive was the turning point where America's opinion about Vietnam changed, why? Because the media lied just like they have lied and lied and lied and lied and lied about Bush and Iraq. While the left wing media has done a great damage to the war effort and to Bush, they have not been able to destroy Bush like they did Nixon and this kills Liberals.
Most of the media is but an extension of the Democrat and Liberal attack machine and they hate it when someone doesn't play by their rules. Let us not forget that long before Bush, the liberal media and Democrats have called any and all Republican Presidents idiots, dumb, uneducated, etc, etc. For Liberals and the media General Eisenhower, the greatest General to ever exist in America was an uneducated idiot. It is a very old liberal media and Democrat trick to try to dumb down the Republican Presidential candidate. Don’t forget that the media was completely silent about John Kerry actually receiving worst grades than George Bush. They praised Kerry, called him an intellectual, yet they attacked Bush for having a C average in college. They never bother to report that Kerry’s grades were actually lower. Just like with Barrack Obama now. The media and the Liberals have attacked Bush for supposedly doing cocaine in the 1960s. Now that Obama is running and he has admitted to having done cocaine, where is the Liberal media attacking Obama for doing drugs? Or just like with Clinton, President Clinton never served in Vietnam, in fact he left the USA and went to Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union to protest the Vietnam War. Just like Bush, Clinton sent American troops into harms way, neither the media nor the Liberals seemed to mind that Clinton hadn’t served at all. Yet they call into question Bush’s right to send troops into harms way because he served in the National Guard. I mean the liberal media hypocrisy goes on and on.
I take it that the people that have started this website are counting on the usual ignorant liberals. How truly sad.
You could put the video into still format, so people with dial-up wouldn't have to wait forever to download it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuYDRrmIH2w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RlAiTprpXc
Any thinking person knows FOX is entertainment. Sadly, way too many people don't get that. Usually they are the ones who are not motivated or educated enough to tell the difference between truth and what they want to believe. And that, in a nutshell, is why so many people bother watching it. Hence the ratings, if we are willing to believe they were accurate or objective...
Perhaps if a truly ethical journalistic media source that wasn't funded by one of the increasingly few power-hungry corporations gobling up all the outlets came along, FOX would crumble under the scrutiny.
But don't count on it.
The masses don't really want the truth. Which is why they medicate with myth and stories.
In the meantime, Fox should be sued for maliciously politicizing issues that has blackened the name of American democrats, exposed liberals to contempt, ridicule, humiliation, and chagrin --- perhaps even endangering their lives. FNC’s defamatory statements are responsible for the partisanship that now infects our country.
Fox should be arrested for intentionally inciting subversion and making false statements of fact by alleging their pundits are providing the news, spewing hatred, intolerance, racism, and misogyny across the airwaves. At the very least the Democratic Party should file a class action lawsuit on behalf of every democrat in America for the defamatory statements published by Fox, constituting Slander Per Se when spoken orally and Libel Per Se in written form.
The FCC has allowed America's free press to be shackled and consolidated, creating a media oligopoly more interested in lining their pockets by providing cheap, offensive sensational entertinment for the "news." Democracy cannot survive without responsible journalism because the TRUTH does not exist. It is imperative that Americans do whatever it takes to stop Murdoch's insidious cancer from growing and destroying our country's independent free press.
Are you for real? wow! how many millions did the Clinton administration spend in commercials during his administration? How many millions did President Clinton spend trying to sell america his ideas using propaganda?
Jesus, you can't be as ignorant as you sound. Presidents since as far back as Franklin D. Roosevelt have used commercials, "propaganda", to sell their administration's agenda to the American people. Bush is NOT the first President to do it and he will certainly not be the last. You need to go to a library listen to the radio commercials (propaganda) put out by FDR when he was trying to sell Social Security to the American people. You will also find that he used radio commercials and print out to sell many of his other agenda items, including WWII.
I am sure that you are also aware that President Bush is not the first PResident to put a black out on the media to not show flagged draped coffins of American soldiers. FDR had a whole department that monitored the media and made sure that anything that was printed or put on radio about the war, his administration approved. Imagine that, a Democrat President censoring the media.
I suggest you do what you are asking me to do and do a little bit of research and educate yourself before you show outrage about something that has been done by all Presidents, Republicans AND Democrats since FDR!!!!
You see, that is what the Liberal media and Democrats count on, well intentioned, but ignorant people like Jesus. I am very well aware of the fake outrage from the media and the Democrats about Bush spending money in so called propaganda to sell his agenda. What the Liberal media and the Democrats wont tell you is that this is a practice that has been carried out by all Presidents since FDR.
Liberals, education will set you free!!!!
Have a happy day,
Derfman
1. Have a friendly ad agency draw a profile
of the FNC viewer. I believe you'll find them to be typically, 50+ and downscale, two
very undesirable traits in audiences delivered.
Arm your participants w/ this credibly sourced info as two reasons why advertising on FNC is not a smart buy.
2. The Obama campagign is correct--all democratic challengers and/or their supporters should embargo all information and direct dealings (on-air appearances) with FNC. Their entire content model is based on conflict w/ those in the center and left set up
as victim/patsy to be beaten down with all the resources of the network--the "moderators," commentators, producers who write and call for the demeaning grfx--top to bottom, the deck will ALWAYS be stacked against those who do not agree as they are only in business to give their core audience (who will NEVER be persuaded otherwise) a steady diet of reinforcement that they are right. These people believe that just by giving access to those in the center or left,
Fox is fulfilling their "fair and balanced" promise. Take away that access and Fox viewers are left with only their "side" talking TO one another about the other side. Eventually, this gets boring for those who crave a victim--auto races with no crashes? Would THAT work?
Now Fox will rail vociferously about how those
opposing them are afraid and how this flies in
the face of a free press, but stay strong.
Strategically freeze them out of the discourse
long enough to affect ratings.
I spent 30 yrs in lcl television and learned that this tactic is effective--when lcl critics were consistently critical and biased, one general manager boss of mine said that's it--no information/assistance to this reporter/paper. Eventually, and it did take a couple of years, the reporter was replaced and balance in coverage was restored.
To Rupert, it's just business, so destroy the business model.
If you honestly want to show the TRUTH you can't pretend Fox is doing anything more sinister than the "Democratic/Liberal" "opinion stations", oops I mean news stations, which by the way vastly outnumber the "Repulican/Conservative" TV "opinion stations", then you really should do another piece showing the counter argument. You would regain my repect and could honestly say the media you produce is for the informed, not just a liberal pep rally, but I fear the truth is not as big of a part of your agenda as you would like the fart smellers and the rest of the world to believe.
Peace out homeys,
The Derfness
I love to hear your voice of reason as I am reading all these militant liberals plotting to sensor the "conservative" opinion station, but I think it is for the wrong reasons meaning you still want them silenced, but you’re afraid some tactics might actually backfire.
The problem is we both think we are smarter than the other guy when in reality we both have been bombarded by biased half truths since we were young. I was an alter boy in the Catholic church for eight years growing up and attended very conservative schools until college. I was raised believing:
1. Jesus was the only god
2. Gay intimacy is immoral
3. Eating meat on Friday during lent made God mad
4. If I told my sins to a priest God would forgive them
5. Jesus was born on 12-25-0000.
6. Lots of other things no one can prove
After some research:
1. Jesus may have just been an incredible man
2. The reason Muslims and Catholics both condemn gay love could be because they both wanted to rule the world and it’s hard for two men or two women to restock the holy army with fresh blood
3. The fishing trade was having a hard time so some pope decided all meat, but fish could not be eaten on Fridays.
4. The Catholic Church used to take money as penance for sins and if they were willing to do that one might assume secret sins have probably been used as leverage for political gain in the past.
5. A roman emperor decided a good way to unite his feuding kingdom of Christians and pagans was to have the celebration of God's b-day on a major pagan holiday and we all partied together.
6. Could I be wrong about one or more of my revelations above, sure? The problem is I have more PROOF for them than I do for things I was "brainwashed" to believe ever since the doc hit me where God split me.
WHAT THE HELL IS MY POINT!
I don't have one, I'm just craving attention......just kidding..kind of.
The point is just because these folks make a video and generally speaking, you like their messages don't kid yourself for a second that what you are hearing is the TRUTH.
Let’s get deep and maybe crazy--I'm reading a book right now by Cesar Millan....yes, the "Dog Whisperer". A major message I'm beginning to understand is that the majority of animals we encounter, including us wacko humans, are constantly testing each other and jockeying for positions of power in the pack. In addition, those without the strong desire or ability to lead will fall into place in a pecking order and often decide which camp or dominant leader to follow.
In the animal world this is a function that helps sustain the future of the pack and insure that the pack stays strong. Some animals make the wrong decision and their leader leads them to doom.
I'm afraid of the Iran pack and the Iraq pack and in General the Muslim extremist packs and I have to decide which leaders will be able to protect me from, primarily, those who want me dead.
Gay couples, the economy, who has the better health care idea, mean nothing to dead people. I'm not spreading fear to promote my agenda. My pack was attacked and I want my leader to calmly and assertively scare the hell out of the rival pack members to the point where they question their support of their pack leader. (Iran). If my leader fails to do all they can to protect me two things can happen: he is replaced or the pack is replaced.
Did we lose in Vietnam? To answer that I'd ask were we fighting a country or fighting communism? Your answer to the second question, I believe, changes the answer to the first question.
Are we "losing" in Iraq? I believe if we allow our enemies to influence our actions using our own media against us we will. In our lifetime will we ever vacation at the Iranian Disney world and become bestist friends with our sexist, religious extremist brothers in the sand? Not unless they decide money is more important than Allah like the Saudis pretty much have done.
If everyone in the world could step back and just think logically then much of this brainwashing could be undone and we could all drink a coke and make a human chain around the world and sing dump unity songs, but alas, we are one huge freaking pack and we are all jockeying for pack leader and us human are far more capable of elaborate deceit.
Call me a war monger, alarmist, paranoid, republican jerk, but if a member of my pack is bitten by a dog from another pack I want my Alfa to kill that mutt in front of as many people as possible so they once again fear the "sleeping giant", but I'm funny that way.
Catch ya on da flip side,
Derfalicous
Get that doctors who are treating the liberal on Hannity and Combs to stop giving him his HIV meds so he goes away and stops making you guys look like total idiots.
I know, very very harsh, but the guy seems like he's fighting so hard for liberal ideas, but just gets crushed almost every day.
Maybe he's just a poser like John Stewart's conservative poser clone, Colbert.
I will give you guys this: you have figured out CNN does not hold the attention of very many highschool and college kids, but Stewart and Colbert do. I'm 33 and I will admit I got 75% of my world news from the "Daily Show" in college, but that was with the dude before Stewart and in Stewart's early days before he started loving his own farts, laughing like geek at himself every 2 minutes, and making every world event about how Bush screwed up. We get it you don't like Bush, now that that's established is there anything left?
Seriously, had Colbert been a true conservative and willing to take such an over the top approach as he pretended to early on, it would have been a huge set back for liberals because our highschoolers and college kids would have had a relatively young and hip conservative champion so they could subtly raged against the machine, like we all did at one time or another, but still keep their conservation values.
Then the elections approached and Colbert's master, Stewart, said "shift gears my son because you may actually be appealing to the youth who may vote now, but will be voting in 5 years". For me that day really sucked because the Colbert Report had become my new Daily Show. Now I can't take more than 5 or 10 minutes of either.
To any of you fart smellers who take yourself WAY to seriously and say CNN is anymore a true news report than Comedy Central's I say you are not watching Stewart because as much as I have grown to hate him I wish he was on my side because I feel when he stops smiling, laughing like a dork, and puts someone in his crosshairs he's dangerous.
Dear Mr. Colbert,
Hook up with mommy, kill your daddy, and rage against the dying of your conservative light. Even if you know in your heart you're liberal, you're wrong. Darth Stewart may be your father, but you can fight the dark side within you....come back to the force.
Yes among all my other faults I'm also a semi-Star Wars-dork. Hey it was one of the first movies I remember seeing from my childhood and a "Parent trap" or " The Incredible Shrinking Woman" reference just did not work here.
Now go forth and multiply....or at least enjoy practicing,
The wise and powerful DERF
O'LIE-lee was on Oprah on Feb 21
& got away with rehabilitating his persona - without apologizing about what he said about the kids recently who were freed after having been held by the Pizza guy.
He said some good things on Oprah - but it was never pointed out that he said opposite things VERY recently.
Why was he ON at all? Is he some kind of expert?
He didn't apologize - which WOULD have been a reason.
Why didn't he apologe like he said he would?
It could have made him a hero to say he was wrong - but he never came close. So it turned into a PR job without admitting culpability or error.
Isn't this also a part of the typical liberal pattern of attempting to 'win' not on merit, but by stifling debate?
Not very American. It's how patriotism ends up being questioned and cowardice is suggested.
Fight on, fairly and bravely. Don't cheat.
Sure. Where is the proof of the claims made about the left owning the media? The contrary is pretty well documented.
The media is shrinking - how much of your local news is fluff to make you feel good about a non-story?
How much of the local news is fed by outside sources - the Bushies were caught feeding false stories with that Karen whatever, creating propaganda pieces for submission to local news.
How much local news is a promo for shows appearing on that network? This is NEWS?
What about coverage for Bush - specifically egregious in the 2000 election - until the 2 weeks before the election, all the media would do is MOSTLY paraphrase Bush into coherent soundbites - and have the announcer repeat them over the top of footage of Bush stumping. His words spoken by himself would have underscored his inability to speak coherently without programmed talking points well practiced.
That would make a good short film.
Isn't this also a part of the typical liberal pattern of attempting to 'win' not on merit, but by stifling debate?
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Now THAT's FUNNY!
Stifling debate - give examples please.
WHERE is your evidence, Mr RightWinger???? LOL!
Please help get this country back to honest debate and help expose the liars and cheats!
I've been as ridiculas and unprofessional as I could up to this point, but when you start talken trash about my Irish Papa Bear I have no control and may need to get serious.
We need to make a deal before this thing gets out of control"
1. You never question the no spinniness of our Billy O
2. I'll keep my mouth shut about John Stewart
Then to feed our need for blood:
1. I'll cast drugged up tub-o-RUSH to your lions (I'm honest enough to admit all he does is spin until even I want to puke)
2. BUT you have stab Mr. Pretty Boy in the back and get him to admit the world would be better off if he just swallowed a bullet....yes brace yourself..your have to give us THE FART SMELLER himself ....Clooney
Once again, like Stewart, I've lost a guy I loved. Why couldn't he just stick to making cool movies the guys liked for the action and the girls liked for their BEEFCAKEYNESS, oh and keep his mouth shut! Hell he killed his own dads chances because when it all boils down the guy making 35K a year does not care if some millionaire feels we should not deport illegal aliens or we should spend a few billion in Africa solving those people's problems.
I say we make an international statement that we will no longer steal money from our people and primarily our working class so that Clooney can fulfil a promise to the maid at his African hotel on one of his many "vacations". We will close our borders and stop ALL international support for five years so we might try to pay back billions or trillions of dollars we owe to the same countries we're spending the money on.
People, please wake up and ask yourselves if our Democracy is getting stronger, sustaining, or if we are approaching our end.
To assume we are fine is to say you believe the United States will never fall. I'm sure the Greeks, Romans, Europian empires, Soviets, and even certain American indian tribes KNEW they would be around forever. The averge life of the world's greatest empires is around 200 years, But I'm sure we can do whatever we want and nothing can tear us down.
To turn on your own leader and say Bush is the reason the muslims hate us is to forget the hundreds or thousands of Muslim Extremist attacks on innocent people which happened prior to Bush.
People, the Muslims do not want us dead because Bush is trying to steal their oil. They want us dead for the same reason they have wanted us dead for hundreds of years...we will not accept the wizard of Allah as our Lord and hence the Humans who say they are Allah's authorities on earth have no control over us.
Why were you not afraid of them when you were a child? Because the USSR and the USA were in an arms race and no one else had the bomb. We proved to the world we did not want to destroy it, but now we are faced with counties who are getting the bombs and who have proven to the world that destroying themselves is glorious as long as they do it for Allah. Is it so far fetched to KNOW you are going to heaven and hooking up with 13 virgins for eternity if you destroy the world in the name of Allah. Hell, the VIRGIN Mary gave birth to God who said go to churck every Sunday and eat a pice of bread which IS my body? and drink red wine which is actually my blood? and even if you rape and murder 1000 children if you are truely sorry and confess your sins you will spend eternity in paradise.
What is really important to you. Should we spend our lives fighting our own people over gay unions being legal or over should we back our leader who trying send a message and in doing so could shift the middle east from a theocracy to a democracy and allow the people of those areas human rights ecspecially the women who are SLAVES in every essence of the word...sure many of them may accept their own slavery and even support it, only because of hundreds of years of brainwashing.
I just hate seeing us spend so many resources on fighting our own when I truely believe if they had to choose, the vast majority of lesbians would rather us free all muslim women rather than so OK you can marry.
"I'm a dreamer,but I'm not the only one",
I love you, bye bye
Derf the scatterbrain
you are aware that Dick Morris was the right hand of the Clintons all through the 1990s. He was the Karl Rove for the Clinton White House. So, if it is true what you claim about Dick Morris then the Clintons are as much garbage as you claim Foxnews is, right?
please, you are a liberal whacko if you believe the garbage you pick up against conservatives through the left wing nut blogs.
3 simple steps that help a little.
All I watch is the most fair, balanced, and respectable news on earth.....FOX. I make a ton of money and thank you for the ideas. I will now start paying attention to who advertises there and try to spend my money with those folks.
Sure, I flip over to CNN, CNBC, and my local liberal news stations during commercials, but I can't stay long. I feel the same way about those as you do about FOX.
All I ask is that you keep peeling the onion back. If the last layer proves conservatives to be wrong then so be it, but when you stop asking what the motavations behind peoples actions are then you become a pawn.
I realize, in your mind, you may truely believe CNN is fair and balanced, even though I think you really know they're liberal and if you continue to attack FOX and praise CNN you might be lucky enough to sway a few on the fencers.
Do you really expect the readers here to believe that FOX is the conservative voice and there is NO liberal voice. So you are saying CNN is totally unbaised, they are just telling the news with no slant or opinion. OR --I guess you could be saying that conservative values are so damaginging to the country, and the vast majority of USA folks have the same beliefs as CNN so FOX should under.....When did FOX start? Why did FOX start? Oh yea Conservatives were so sick of the liberal agenda being passed off as legit news a whole new channel was started and has made such an impact that liberals are plotting to get rid of it or hurt it. Your own agenda to destroy it proves its importance and its impact.
Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the most recent Presidential election:
Population of counties won by:
Gore = 127 million
Bush = 143 million
Square miles of land won by:
Gore = 580,000
Bush = 2,2427,000
States won by:
Gore = 19
Bush = 29
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Gore = 13.2
Bush = 2.1
WHY AM I A CONSERVATIVE??????????
Why do I support many of the president's actions even though some of his actions make me sick? Because the alternative is not the life of country I want. With that said I believe I'm backing the lessor of two evils not the best choice, but the best we could get elected at that time.
"Honesty is such a lonely word"
alright lets see what the fart smellers have thrown up recently
Derfaroony
PS enjoy my wisdom because this is the first, last, and only time I will ever be here. I have truely pissed away a valuable day trying to educate you evil liberals.
Remember, there is no such thing as a dumb question, just dumb liberals. So feel fre to ask me questions about how to redeem yourself and become a conservative asset to our society....your welcome in advance
They try to put an end to all alternate view points other than their own.
They want to get rid of FOX news.
They want to get rid of conservative radio talk stations.
They scream, yell, and whine on college campuses if a speaker with an alternate view point is scheduled to talk.
This is what the Nazi party had done in the past and this is what they do currently.
Stop your crying!!! Face the facts!!!
What do you liberal folks think about this? What is the liberal counter argument? Please don't step up to the plate if you can't hit. I'd rather not waste my time reading a stupid argument with no facts to support it.
At about the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution, in the year 1787, Alexander Tyler (a Scottish history professor at The University of Edinborough) had this to say about "The Fall of The Athenian Republic" some 2,000 years prior:
"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."
"The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations alw ays progressed through the following sequence:
From Bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage."
Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the most recent Presidential election:
Population of counties won by:
Gore = 127 million
Bush = 143 million
Square miles of land won by:
Gore = 580,000
Bush = 2,2427,000
States won by:
Gore = 19
Bush = 29
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Gore = 13.2
Bush = 2.1
Professor Olson adds:
"In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the tax-paying citizens of this great country. Gore's territory encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off government welfare . . ."
Olson believes the U.S. is now somewhere between the "apathy" and "complacency" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy with some 40 percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.
Cesar Millan is a true delight and a human psychologist of the highest order (--- in spite of perhaps lacking an academic pedigree)... Nevertheless, the point Mr. Millan (aka the
"Dog Whisperer") has gone to great lengths to make is that humans --- as dog owners tend to be narcissistic and unsurprisingly anthropomorphic. In other words; the reason people make terrible pack leaders and raise neurotic dogs is because we are not dogs living in packs. Indeed, humanity has evolved beyond the savagery of a dog eat dog world. But thank god Mr. Millan is here to remind us that we have a duty to our best friends and Neanderthal nitwits like you Mr. Derf Kallop, to see that you’re trained and obedient for the good of society. As y’all do have a paranoid tendency for lashing out at others unlike yourselves, resulting in mayhem, chaos, anarchy, and most certainly death. Sound familiar?
It amazes me that the liberals get upset because ONE national network doesn't report the liberal bias in their news.
ABC,CBS,NBC,CNN,MSNBC,ETC,Etc. have been the mouthpiece for the liberal agenda for many, many years.
If you don't like the FOX Network, do what I do with the liberal networks... just turn it off.
Leslie insert any of the Liberal left wing news channels where you have used the word Fox, Republicans where you have Demoncrats and the message will be much more accurate. Insert the New York Times as well, that way you will have a much better understanding of who is maliciously politicizing issues that has blackened the name of every American that doesn't share the lefts liberal views.
Here's your post, go ahead make some name changes.
Far too many of our fellow citizens get their "news" from Fox --- and a very good reason why it continues to take Americans so long to discern the truth. That said, I think we should demand that the FCC set "news worthy" standards for broadcasting stations that advertise they provide 24 hour news.
In the meantime, Fox should be sued for maliciously politicizing issues that has blackened the name of American democrats, exposed liberals to contempt, ridicule, humiliation, and chagrin --- perhaps even endangering their lives. FNC’s defamatory statements are responsible for the partisanship that now infects our country.
Fox should be arrested for intentionally inciting subversion and making false statements of fact by alleging their pundits are providing the news, spewing hatred, intolerance, racism, and misogyny across the airwaves. At the very least the Democratic Party should file a class action lawsuit on behalf of every democrat in America for the defamatory statements published by Fox, constituting Slander Per Se when spoken orally and Libel Per Se in written form.
The FCC has allowed America's free press to be shackled and consolidated, creating a media oligopoly more interested in lining their pockets by providing cheap, offensive sensational entertinment for the "news." Democracy cannot survive without responsible journalism because the TRUTH does not exist. It is imperative that Americans do whatever it takes to stop Murdoch's insidious cancer from growing and destroying our country's independent free press.
I'm sorry, but I just can't help myself from shaking my head and laughing at this post. lol
I believe that true objectivity in news has been dead for a long time, since most people have a hard time not putting some slant of opinion on whatever they say or write. What I find most ludicrous about FOX is their insistance that they are fair and balanced, which they are not. No other news network that I have seen has made such a claim. I know that it's difficult to have a news source that is completely neutral, and that if one ever were totally neutral then people from either extreme would be claiming that it is slanted to the other side, since a large number of people seem to feel that anything that isn't totally for their opinion is completely against it.
Is there a real possible way to fix this? I don't believe so, not in the realities of corporate America where there is plenty of reason not to change, and by and large everything seems to go towards maintaining the status quo.
I don't approve of what fox news does, and being nominally liberal I feel that the people they attack should not go onto shows from their network, but I also feel that the entire political process is about casting yourself in the best light possible while casting no light on the opposition. As they say all publicity is good publicity.
Tofa T.V. will be launching in approximately. We're are an independently owned, real television network that will be broadcasting on cable, as well as the internet. We have our own programming, and own news shows. Would love to carry some of your ideas to the rest of the world. Write any ideas to Mike Pierre President at mike1tofa@aol.com.
Always open to ideas, and programming ideas.
Mike Pierre
"Would love to carry some of your ideas to the rest of the world. Write any ideas to Mike Pierre President at mike1tofa@aol.com."
I'll bet you would like to carry my ideas to the rest of the world...... just like you'd like to carry that big mountain of cash you'll make off of them. Go jump in a lake!
Bobby
Fox News (if you can even call it news) is so out of touch with reality, most of their mind games don't work anymore, it's becoming comedic.
The most priceless television I have ever seen was when Bill O'Reilly was on the David Letterman show. David Letterman exposed Bill O'Reilly for what he really is. A fraud.
I think while you were watching Fox News over the years, it really did lower your IQ.
Yeah, Dave Letterman's views are soooo much more closer to reality.
So now you have CNN, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, David Letterman, The New York Times, LA Times, Washington Post and I'm sure I'm leaving some others out. Now you want Fox News shut down because everybody out there just doesn't see things your way. Typical.
While you guys are boycotting sponsors of the Fox News Channel, I'd like a favor. Could you boycot The Video Professor, Enzyte "Everybody Loves Bob", Viagra, Cialis and all gadget commercials, countrywide loans, nutrisystem. I'd love to see those go to the left side, but I got a feeling they are not exclusive to just advertising on Fox News. Ahhh Crap.
If you want to really make a difference in this world, and are serious about exposing unjust, how about stepping up to the plate and fighting some real issues that affect us all. Market manipulation, fraud on the street, corporate greed, the fraudulent SEC, your future really depends on this.
Check out the Bob O'Brien blog and sanity check.
http://www.thesanitycheck.com/
Just my 2c worth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCDkC-Ce56M
“Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me”
Your two points as I understood them:
1. I'm a "Paranoid Neandrathal nitwit" ---So, I'm a stupid, extinct specie of prehistoric man who lives in a cave, hates Gieco, and has a mental disorder consisting of delusions of persecution causing me lash out with the result being bad things like death.
2. My Millan reference is meaningless in this context because "humanity has evolved beyond the savagery of a dog eat dog world"
To quote SNL "Leslie Pool, you ignorant slut!" jk
1. The middle east primarily consists of theocracies, Extemist muslims want us dead, their religous leaders can't/won't stop the violence, and the non-extremists in their country can't/won't stop their violence, the ignorant feel they will spend eternity in paradise should they commit murder and suicide in the name of their god, they have more access to our country than ever before, they have more access to WMDs than ever before, they have figured out how to turn us against ourselves.
The 1972 Munich massacre during the 1972 Summer Olympics in Munich, West Germany
The December 1975 hostage taking at the OPEC headquarters in Vienna, Austria
Bombing of Cubana Flight 455 in 1976 which killed 73 people.
The June 1985 bombing of Air India Flight 182 originating from Canada
The destruction of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland on December 21, 1988
The killing of Nicaraguan civilians during the 1980s by US-sponsored contras who had been trained by the United States in the use of terror.[40]
The 1993 World Trade Center bombing
The 1993 Mumbai bombings
The 1995 sarin gas attacks in Tokyo, Japan
The Oklahoma City bombing by Timothy McVeigh on April 19, 1995
The Centennial Olympic Park bombing in 1996
The US embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania on August 7, 1998
The Omagh bombing in Northern Ireland (August 15, 1998)
The August 31 – September 22: Russian Apartment Bombings kills about 300 people, leading Russia into Second Chechen War
The September 11, 2001 attacks in New York, and Washington D.C.[41][42]
The 2001 Indian Parliament attack on December 13, 2001
The Passover Massacre on March 27, 2002 in Netanya, Israel
The Moscow theatre siege and the Beslan school siege in Russia
The Bali bombing in October 2002
The March 11, 2004 attacks in Madrid
The July 7, 2005 bombings in London
The second Bali bombing on October 1, 2005
The Mumbai train bombings on 11 July 2006.
Some terrorist attacks or plots were designed to kill thousands of people, but either failed or fell short. Such plans include the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, Operation Bojinka, and the 2006 transatlantic aircraft plot.
DELUSIONS OF PERSECUTION?
I guess we can add all these to the list of things Iran's president informed us never happened!
2. You said--"humanity has evolved beyond the savagery of a dog eat dog world"
I didn't notice the wonderful "evolution towards peace" you speak of. I was under the impression 9-11 actually happened when I guess it was just a movie. The savagery is not gone. In fact, at least animals kill for survival.
I was also under the impression that a friend of mine had been murdered in the Bali bombings by extremists, but how could this be in such a non-dog eat dog, non-savage, evolved world. Was he killed because he was a threat to Islam? Hell yes he was! Because anyone who is not for them is against them in their (extremists) eyes hence an infidel hence should be dead.
Leslie, Where are all the Democrats who voted to go to Iraq....oh yea, the only reason they voted to go was because Bush told them lies???? I expect my elected officials to do some research.
When did these Democrats change their mind? Was it right before the elections? WHERE WERE ALL THESE (non-nitwit, neanderthals) THE DAY WE DECIDED TO SEND TROOPS?
PS right now on CNN they are reporting that the president of IRAQ was injured in an assasination attempt.
WAR sucks, people die, gorilla warfare sucks worse, fighting an enemy that hides in religious buildings and behind bystandards really sucks. Seeing our own die for freedom is hard to take. Does this mean our actions are wrong.
Do you believe the captives in GB are proof of the Republican's Neandrathal..ness. Do you spend the same amount of energy speaking out against the murderers in Iraq who behead their prisoners?
Do you feel the only reason the Democrats Oked the war was because they were mislead into thinking Iraq was behind 9-11 and they had WMDs.
It is gorilla warfare! I guess you could send a letter to the terrorist and ask them to only use muskets, wear red coats, and stand in line and trade bullets with us, but I think they've pretty much decided they can only make impact with terrorist attacks on primarily unprotected targets...civilians!
What just pisses me off is I honestly believe if it were Bill Clinton who sent the troops the Democrats would be all for it and the Republicans would be against it...if you think differently I'd say you're a liar or maybe you're the "nitwit".
By the way, next time you step up to the plate you may want to bring a bat instead of a big mouth.
Just a thought,
Derfy
Wasn't it just last year that Hillary and Rupert Mordock started making nice? She attended the Fox 10th anniversary party and Rupie said lots of nice things about her.
Let's not let this slip down the memoryhole.
oldswede
I guess I can do something today: I am a conservative leaning middle of the road person--REMOVE MY EMAIL FROM YOUR LIST--I DON"T HAVE TIME TO READ THE TYPE OF GARBAGE THAT IS ON THIS.
But the American people are smarter than that. They'll see 2006 was more about blaming the Republicans for what has happened rather than having a game plan for this country.
In two short years your party will screw things up and the huge landslide you're expecting in the 2008 election will fizzle. And your continued hate messages will come out because hate is something that sticks to your whole being and can't easily be removed.
You have the house and senate. I suggest you use the time wisely...the people aren't as stupid as you make them to be...
http://www.unspace.net/2007/03/fox-news-an-atte...
Fox eventually fixed it, and the fix shows just how bad the original stunt was. Why did they put a large picture of Edwards on that article when Edwards had nothing to do with it?
I posted a second article, explaining how the Fox trick worked. It's right above the first article. Having worked with several large circulation newsletters, I'm familiar with the basic tricks of graphic design, but apparently my readers aren't.
You haters will lose this one hopefully, dont wanna go back to force feeding days.
Don't like Fox? Go to NBC and get the skewed story.....they report...YOU decide.
* Fox News Seagulls Squawk
*Fox News Viewer Moo's
Explanation:
Fox News spreads Lies and 1/2 truths, using people with seagull mentality (all seagulls do is sqwak and shit). The viewer is the cow, (cows follow the herd). Then revert to attack people that counter the lies by attacking the messenger and not the message.
fairly simple when you break it down into something a child would understand.
Has anyone see the newest abomination on faux ? the 1/2 hour news hour.
if you truly wish to wonder why republicans are the way they are, watch it. Its not funny, its rather childish, the type of funny of a bully on a playground ostricising the fat kid.It's proves that most republicans are incapable of thinking outside the box.
Translated into Republican:
Fox News "Reporter"
Squawk squawk squawk. praise Bush!, grunt plop.
Fox News Viewer:
Moo moo, moo moo moo, moo, moooo, moo. Bush moo.
*stampedes over a cliff"
*little bit of farm humor.
Lemmings have the same effect.
Stop trying to shutdown "MY" news channel and I won't worry about shutting down "your" news channels (plural). It don't matter...ain't nobody watchin 'em anyway.
nuff said
It also means that you are unhappy. But, what is new, liberals are always unhappy.
Have a Fox day.
Robert
Keep kidding yourselves, guys. The Truth is out there and it is "fair and balanced."
imho ... Kevin Tweedy / Koloa, Kauai, Hawaii
By the way, not that I'm a huge fan of Hillary these days but you could also produce a piece on the Fox's coverage of Hillary speaking in a southern accent at a black church. They took a clip of her speaking in an accent WHILE QUOTING SOMEONE and presented it as if she PRETENDED that was her actual voice. A basic, essential distinction that they ignored while blowing up this ridiculous "story" last week.
I do appreciate your work, and you could start a file on Fox's treatment of all the important democrats. But just present each case in a more factual, straightforward way and it will be more credible, I think.
Grow up. If you don't like FOX, don't watch. I will make an extra effort to support FOX sponsors/
April-We're-Not-Fools-Day!
Spread the word.
For me the pieces finally fall together.
I was admittedly confused as to how the children you were remained the children you are. The Liberal Leeches of society, suctioning off the blood of "abundance" while continually eroding the advancement that had been made before you and to even add to it in a marked irreparable degree.
Re-posting is obviously inescapable:
""The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:
From Bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage."
...Professor Olson adds:
"In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the tax-paying citizens of this great country. Gore's territory encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off government welfare . . ."
Olson believes the U.S. is now somewhere between the "apathy" and "complacency" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy with some 40 percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase."
PROFESSOR OLSON has identified/defined you, the "Bondage Or Bust" crowd.
To finally appreciate how you folks regressed to nothing more than parasitic has been quite revealing for me. Although I feel sorry for you, no one can afford to allow continuing as you have....especially you.
The most financially lucrative stations in the country have large liberal populations that are not being served by any of major networks despite the "Big Lie" to the contrary.
It is time that people in Boston, New York, Chicago, San Francisco and LA begin writing and telling the FCC that the TV stations in their communities are not serving their needs. Start with FOX. That will attack the most egregious and send a message to the other networks at the same time.
That is not news ,that is an organised criminal hate crime which should be taken extremely serious. I think we all should do whatever it takes
to bring this network to its knees. Well, on my part
i am going to invest in one of the state of the art
websites , blogs, search engines,e-mails to attract
masses to help us in the boy-cut of this station of
racism.
the only English channel available.
I could not imagine a more unprofessional,
slanted, and biased, performance.
It was nothing more than a right wing
dept. of propaganda.
We soon switched to the Spanish stations
even though it took more effort to understand.
I would say that Fox network is laughable but
it is more than that it is pathetic and
missleading, and unfortunately, for
many americans, the only source of news.
Better to make sure that the entire Democratic party has NOTHING to do with Fox for the election (Whose stupid idea was that, anyway?) - It's our party and they are actually listening to what we have to say.
Can anybody do anything with Fox News Oreilly's Boston College Opus Dei connections? How long will this catholic terrorist crap go on?
It is absurd that the Black Caucus (which is obviously racist in the simple fact that it is called that) would want to stop their message from being heard in this country. But it is the Democrats who have kept the black man enslaved ever since the civil rights movement, and as long as they continue to vote that way, they will struggle for equality.
Is it racist to think that? Am I a huge racist now? Wake up!
Typical libs. Don't agree with us and you are a right wing racist neanderthal.
You guys need to grow up.
Ahem- "Grow up and get in the game?" because your comment stems from a pillar of maturity? Please it isn't just the fact that Fox is a republican station with a republican bias it's the fact that A LOT of what they show is not only false it's offensive. Debates, especially legit ones are always based on facts and if one of the participants LIES to win, their disqualified. Have your opinions, be diverse in politics, etc. BUT be honest. My problem with FOX is that they are openly racist and encouraging a racist agenda not to unlike the KKK's which is on the rise in membership! Besides if we are soo pathetic and such whinners and should leave you big bad tough republicans alone, um why are you here? Let us be.
Mr Barack Obama will win, just hope that he will ignore these kind of comments and keep focused and of course stay away from cigarettes, please do not give them the slightest excuse.
with best wishes
http://www.democracynow.org/
http://www.crooksandliars.com/
elderly woman,who could be anyones mother,
Grandmother or Greatgrandmother.People are
upset and outraged that this could happen in
this city.
Tell Michael Bloomberg,Hillary Clinton,Charles Schumer about your outrage
and the fact that you are not allowed to
defend yourself in their eyes.So do they think
your second class Citizens?
Marshall
So before I get on my political or social soapbox; actually I won't.
The bottom line is, any movement, any revolution, any kind of "major" change in this world has always started with the people. Governments and politicians will not change, until the people change.
Like my decesed uncle used to say "put up or shut up!"
Peace and Blessings to all.
You got Dan Rather be lying then telling the truth.
You have a senator hiding 90K in his freezer
Nancy raising minimum wage for everyone but the tuna company in her district
A thief stuffing papers in his socks for the Clinton’s
Presidential pardons for corrupt family members
Drunken Kennedy smashing his car then getting a ride home from the police
First attack on the Trade Center & USS Cole bombing with no retaliation until the Pres got caught with his cigar up Monica; then he tossed over some bombs to divert attention.
Once every four years you have white democrats take photos in a black church.
Hilary, wearing a Yankee hat as she campaigns for a seat on the senate, now she has a southern accent.
Mr. Global warming with his gas and electric bill 20 times higher then the average person.
The reason why you hate FOX is because you are used to getting away with everything you say and do. FOX exposes you guys every time you break the law and lie; and you hate them from it.
Sorry, I’m a middle aged married man with two kids. I’m also Catholic, white and middle class, you must hate me.
I am watching The O'Reilly Factor right now on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 8:00pm EST. Bill is interviewing the mayor from Salt Lake City who wants Bush impeached, and Bill just called him a "kook" several times. Each time he said this, I couldn't help but think of the various times Bill has remarked that he refuses to call people names and how much he despises people who do.
I think O'Reilly deserves his very own Fox Attacks segment - devoted to him and him alone. I can't count the amount of times I have heard him shout "you're a nut!" or "you're a kook!". One interview I remember in particular was of Professor James Fetzer - but there have been countless others.
If I knew how to make a film clip, here's what I would do. First, start with a segment of Bill condemning people who use name-calling. Follow this with 4 or 5 short clips of him calling someone a name (nut, kook, jerk, idiot, moron, etc.) After this, just simply rinse and repeat. This little film could go on for as long as you want it to, given the amount of material Bill has given us to work with. Between 2 and 3 minutes would be perfect, I think. First, Bill's thoughts on name-calling, followed by his hypocritical behavior - done over and over again. Heck, that could go on forever.
Please take my suggestion into consideration. I think it has the potential (though I know I'm not the first to think of it) to become a very popular and highly passed around online clip. I bet it would be a lot of fun to make, too.
Thanks so much to the Outfoxed crew.
Sincerely,
Ross
Take off your "one eyed "glasses you nut!
One other thing you may want to consider is the philosophical similarities between FOX boss Rupert Murdoch and Nazi news man Joseph Goebbels who once proclaimed proudly: "During a war, news should be given out for instruction rather than information." I'm not trying to change your world-view, I just like you to objectively consider the possibilities.
r-
"modern day Nazi"? I thought the Nazi's regime died after WW1?
Also, your comparisons are quite inadequit.
Has the U.S killed as many Iraqies as the German forces killed Jews? Have the American forces separated mothers from children and loaded them on trains to later gas them and starve them in work camps?
I have objectively considered the possibilities as you requested, and well Rick, I think you should move to Syria, where you would feel right at home, and you would be much happier.
FOX ATTACKS HISPANICS!
FOX ATTACKS JEWS!
FOX ATTACKS HIPHOP!-->CAMRON, LUDACRIS,DAME DASH
FOX ATTACKS THE TRUTH\BILL OREILLY IS A LIAR!
FOX ATTACKS PACIFISTS!
FOX ON CONTRADICTION!
FOX ON HYPOCRITS!
FOX ATTACKS AMERICAN MINDS!
The truth hurts doesn't it? It you don't want to know the truth, stick to your beloved CBS, ABC, CNN, ans espeacially NBC news. This way, you can continue to receive the news you WANT to hear, not the truth.
Bob, why is FOX the number one rated cable television show? Are you saying that 150 million Americans are wrong? Bob Johnson is whats wrong with America.
P.S George Bush smashed Gore(speaking of hypocrits) in the 2000 elections. It still hurts, doesn't it Bob? Well, GET OVER IT LOSER!
Besides needing to learn to spell you obviously don't even know what war the nazi's were in. I guess being stupid makes you even more inclined to be brain washed by Fox.
Bush beat Gore by a landslide Mel...did I spell that right?
We use the white man as a scapegoat so we can justify to ourselves and others why we aren't advancing, when we need to look inside ourselves and see what positive steps we actually take. We get offensive about everything that has to deal with black. We need to stop wanting handouts. Dr. King and Malcom X wanted us to integrate, not to keep setting up "Black" organizations to separate ourselves all the time.
In our black culture, we praise things that keep us down, like drug dealers, hustlers, rappers in videos, etc. We look for shortcuts. And some say "We have no choice but to hustle." That is a bunch of crap. How about starting somewhere, even if it is McDonalds. It's not forever. Then take steps to fulfill the big picture.
We need to stop pointing fingers and see that we aren't making positive efforts to progress. We keep ourselves down with black on black crime, violence. If we would unite, we could be taken seriously. The point that is made about the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina is a perfect example! Although in some aspects the media did portray the blacks as stealing tv’s-all the things NOT needed for survival and the whites only stealing bread, water, and baby formula (the necessities)! Still-What were black people doing stealing flat screen tv's and other electronics-again, just putting the stereotype back out there.
Stereotypes are stereotypes because they are so prevalent; they didn't just come out of nowhere.
Other groups are going to continue to stereotype us and continue to do it because we aren't changing. We still remain uneducated, stay in school! Read books, stop going home to watch useless music videos- it doesn't hurt to have diversity in your life!!!!
We are having to many babies out of wedlock, too many black mothers and fathers abuse the welfare systems just because they don't want to have to work. There is the stereotype of Laziness!
Everyone is focused on Barrack Obama just because he is Black. Let's just hope if he is voted into office it is for the right reasons, and that he can make a change in the world.
You peole are Godless, and each of you non-believers are going straight to hell. You believe in abortion, and you want the word "God" left off of certain things we true Americans hold secred.
May God bless all of you, espeacially those liberals without souls!
Bush won...Gore lost.
Which was the funnier lie, Gore inventing the internet, or the movie "LOve story" being about him and Tiptoe,,I mean Tipper. Ok,,,it's a draw!
NBC ATTACKS WOMEN!
CBS ATTACKS HISPANICS!
ABC ATTACKS JEWS!
NBC ATTACKS HIPHOP!-->CAMRON, LUDACRIS,DAME DASH
CNN ATTACKS THE TRUTH\BILL MAHRE IS A LIAR!
NBC ATTACKS PACIFISTS!
CBSON CONTRADICTION!
CNN IS A HYPOCRITS!
FOX ATTACKS ONLY THE TERRORIST
Truthseeking regardless of my consequences
For purposley reporting fake news and skewing reports?
It would not be hard to prove.
We could claim Damages, to our political parties, and to the integrity of jounalism.
I mean someone needs to hold these guys accountable.
I realise they have more money than GOD and the best attornies that money could buy, but with enough people signing onto the lawsuit it could be pulled off.
A huge Class action suit, I think FOX owes me damages.
This proves that the left tries to "stifle" voices rather than compete with ideas.
There soooo much left wing bias that they dont even realize it. When something comes along that is not soooo biased, its considered rabid-right-wing.
i'm thinking anarchist and socialist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz7XsSl3wIg&mode...
FOX disputes the validity of THEIR OWN POLL. They discard the results of their poll by comparing results they don't agree with to the success of questionable hopefuls in American Idol.
Unbelievable.
Believe it or not the white house is connected to Fox. When they needed a speaker, they grabbed Snow. When the election was close the called in an emergency meeting at the white house, consisting of Hannity, Limbaugh, Ingraham, and the rest to start this smear of liberals, because of the fear of Pelosi getting in office.
Just to show how corrupt this place is, the ONLY forum that will give Ann Coulter any air time is Fox. Coulter is a deadhead, who is a scumbag. Gets to call John Edwards a fag at the RNC, and still shows up on Hannity, Cavuto, O'Reilly. This propaganda channel has got to go. Even there new show Red Eye started out cool, and not Gutfeld is whipping the Liberals and Gore on a nightly basis.
I have had enough.
Gary Pino
CEO www.chapparrelsdiecast.com
Posted earlier about liberals by "Carlos", it must be true that if all liberals only agree with their opinions then it must be true for conservatives as well, being that FOX won't even let strong liberals work for them :)
also, this is why I'm Independent
It's AMERICA last time I checked.
there are no leaders in the democrat party, only politicians
I read that he is now buying up tons of surburban newspapers. Beware he did that here in Australia.
Stop supporting him. Every liberal Blog/Website etc. I read has either an ad for the simpsons or one of the other of his shows or one of his movies or uses My space, watches Direct Tv and many other things he has a piece of. Stop supporting him.
According to polls, most Americans believe therefore a figure drastically under any of the estimates, all of which are well into six figures at this time, and there is,at least, one at seven, obscuring the one positve accomplishment of The Reign of Error, the fact that Bush has probably killed or maimed as many Iraqis as his dad, Saddam Hussein and Bill Clinton put together.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/steinreich8.html
Also, this is not just a Fox issue, all right wing hate speech should receive the same treatment. I would like to see current advertiser lists for Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter (whatever shows carry her) as well. I would like to see people notifying Barnes and Nobel, Amazon, etc., that stocking books by these people will lead to boycotts of their businesses.
You might be interested in this video and poster satirising Fox News.
www.pickle.cz/nospinzone.mov
www.pickle.cz/FnB.pdf
I don't watch Fox programs.
I say if you don't like Fox News, just change the channel, that is what I do when I don't like what is on. In this day of 500+ channels of mind numbing television you can surely find something on that will entertain you. TV channels are paid by advertisers because of the number of potential customers that watch them. If less people watch, the channel receives less money from advertisers, waalaaa! Personally I will continue to watch Fox News, because I find them to be the most fair and balanced of any news channels. Notice I did not say they were fair and balanced, but the most fair and balanced.
Clay
A true down the middle Independent
Anyone who seriously believes that CNN, MSNBC, etc. are "left wing" networks, must be smoking something strange! Can you spell CORPORATE MEDIA?
By the way, Washington Times is owned by "Reverend" Moon, well known as being to the right of Atilla the Hun.
1. I get lots of junk mail with offers for credit cards, including American Express. From now on, I'll be sending them a note back, in their postage paid envelope, saying I'm declining their offer because of their ads on Fox. Wouldn't it be nice if everyone did that?
2. A more aggressive tactic would be to encourage people to apply for any no annual fee American Express card offer they get, then cancel the card after they get it, citing the Fox ads as their reason. People might also be encouraged to apply for, and then cancel, Home Depot's Master Card, which can be applied for through the Home Depot website.
Some people have posted comments on this website suggesting that it is enough to just not watch Fox. I don't watch Fox, but it is not enough. By posing as legitimate journalists, Fox misinforms my fellow citizens and arouses them to act in ways that is contrary to nation's interests. The effects of their poisonous lies can not be escaped. They pollute people's minds, and like any polluter they need to be reformed or stopped.
This is the same over-hyped knee jerk reaction that has many people being forced to recycle, which if you have read "ANY" report that isn't put out by the liberal machine, is a COMPLETE waste of time, money, energy AND creates far more pollution than making the material from scratch.
If you disagree with any of this, that's fine, go drink your koolaid, vote for a succubus whore who will ruin this country and bash one of the finest presidents this country has ever had.
Yawn.
Your liberal garbage bores me.
I also notice LOTS of name calling and mudslinging. Because that always solves problems...
Personally, I do not follow a particular party. The people I choose to represent me politically are picked by their indiviual ideaology, goals, standards, and past achievements and affiliations, and how they fit me. This means a lot of background research. I don't think anyone should get information from one source- how easily is that taintable? Even if it's a very "credible" source. There was a comment a while back compairing several "liberal" news organizations to control by Hitler, Stalin, etc. But this was made a person who only watches Fox. Does this person also scour the web to find information (NOT personal blogs, but actual accounts and reports) confirming what Fox states in its reports? Or rather, very similar to a dictatorship, is ALL information coming from the "one and only" source? It just doesn't make sense how you could be so blind!
To add to that, Fox News has *ADMITTED* to broadcasting lies! This is not some third party group such as Brave New Films coming along and telling you that Fox News lied; it is straight from Fox themselves that they **lied**. They lied. Period. There is an official statement from them telling *the world* that even though they present themselves as a credible news organization, they lied. Even if only one, it took a lawsuit to get the truth out. Remember when Connie Chung broke the rules of good journalism? She was blacklisted and her credibility was destroyed. Why not Fox?
People often want to be handfed information rather than seek it out for themselves. Whether or not you watch Fox, do some research. Find out for yourself. Check out sources from *all sides* of the story. If you still agree with Fox, fine, but at least you are educated and can intelligently say *why* you support them. This will earn you a bit more clout than just saying "those gdamn liberals are trying to take away my rights!" with nothing to back it up. Americans *need* to be informed!!
To me Fox has no more credibility than those ridiculous yellow journalist papers at the check out stand. And their journalism is as believable as the amazing birth of the half alligator baby to a woman in Louisiana. (If you have a half alligator child, I'd love to talk!)
To all the Ginas: if you have such disdain for this site, why do you return to say the same thing over and over again?
Karen
love = good
hate = bad
peace = good
war = bad
sex = good
violence = bad
truth = good
lie = bad
justice = good
injustice = bad
and so on...
I mean, come on! It's just a matter of common sense. All the word to distort and blur the most basic principles are bullshit.
Now the story, I was outragged when I saw this!
I am not positive that this story was on the air but I do have the link to the Fox website's article. [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,268747,00.html]
I would have had no idea of it, since I try to not watch or read anything out of the Fox News Network, but in a monthly E-newsletter from the Sierra Club it was the main subject for the email. Here is their article, written by 'Mr. Green'.[http://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/200707/mrgreen_mailbag.asp]
Hope you enjoy, and I wouldn't mind hearing if anything comes of it! Thanks!
Thank you for the work you do.