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Who ever wrote the title for this post needs to take their head out of their ass.
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pages/InsideF...
This guy is blowing smoke. Wright is CLEARLY a bigot, and antisemetic. If you think that the horrible things he had to say was correct, then you are simply fooling yourself.
Listen to what the guy is saying. He says "you've heard one soundbite from the guy looped over and over again" THATS ALL YOUVE HEARD. You don't know who the guy is, you dont know anything. You jump to conclusions like assholes. I'm willing to bet that if we took one sound bite from ANYONE on this board and looped it over and over and didnt show anything else, everyone would think you were a biggoted asshole too.
religion closes your mind! read this book! its the word of god! lies!
the bible was written by ordinary men! man created religion!
the end of religion is the start of a new. religion divides, as you can clearly see.
Now, racism is and should be out of fashion, but what Farrakhan and Wright speak about is how our history has affected our present and will continue to affect our future unless we address it radically (and by radically, I do not mean by violence, I mean urgently.)
Obama's speech, lays it out plainly. And it is prophetic in the way we need to address racism in this country. Israel also has a history. When people discuss Jews it is within this context. Germany also has a history. We need to acknowledge this history. The problem with white america is that no one want's to acknowledge that racism existed (or exists in subtle forms). They say "I didn't own any slaves" as if that makes them less racist, or the country less racist. You may not have owned slaves, but you (and other white people) have benefitted from their ownership and from the accumulated wealth and legacies that have been handed down through the generations.
Ownership of the means of production (industry, banks, manufacturing are examples) was precluded by America's racist policies. These are opportunities that blacks and other minorities did not have.
So what you say now is, "America is the land of opportunity, we made, why don't you". America certainly is, however, because racism existed so long and black people were denied education, ownership (especially land and business) - the infrastructure to allow us to succeed ( schools specifically) are inferior and not conducive to allowing students to excel.
There is an answer to this, and it is in Obama's speech on Race March 18th. www.barackobama.com
I think the questions are important. The point is that these are some of the mans inner most feelings and beliefs. They are simple questions that are swept under the rug.
Also, some of these 'snippets' went on for ten or more minutes. How long does someone have to speak in order for it to not be a snippet anyway?
By that logic, many of the things that people hate republican candidates for saying could be boiled down to just being snippets and therefore shouldn't be taken seriously.
It's important to see through the BS on both sides. The fact is that Mr. Wright has made some ridiculous statements, and while Obama shouldn't be necessarily villanized because of his association it does bring into question whether or not a 'possible' future president should be someone that associates himself with someone who has some of these pernicious tendencies.
You should focus on problems like poverty - unemployment - education - welfare/insurance.Dont let the right wing pigs get you of track; the aforementioned issues are the ones that should be discussed above all.And dont even DARE to say that that fucktard bush is not a racist...
Inspired by President John F. Kennedy's 1961 challenge to "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country," Wright gave up his student deferment, left college and joined the United States Marine Corps and became part of the 2nd Marine Division with the rank of private first class. In 1963, after two years of service, Wright then transferred to the United States Navy and entered the Corpsman School at the Great Lakes Naval Training Center, where he graduated as valedictorian. Having excelled in corpsman school, Wright was then trained as a cardiopulmonary technician at the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland where he graduated as salutatorian. Wright was assigned as part of the medical team charged with care of President Lyndon B. Johnson (Wright cared for Johnson after his 1966 surgery). Before leaving the position in 1967, the White House awarded Wright three letters of commendation.
If more Christians just *pretended* to be like this guy, I would find your mythology far less disturbing.
The reporter in this video claims that Reverend Wright is unpatriotic, a hater, and a bigot. Yet that is what Fox News is all about. The nice man being interviewed won't say it but I will.
Fox News is unpatriotic.
Fox News hates America.
Fox News is bigoted.
But the people at Fox News wrap themselves up in the flag so much that their viewers cannot see what is going on.
I'm glad that more and more people outside the Fox News audience can see what damage Fox News has done and still does to this great nation.
So well said.
Almost makes me want to move to Chicago.
Thank you Father Flager.
If you have watched Bill Oreilly as much as I (for entertainment value, of course) you'll have recognized this "reporter"'s voice and demeanor. He's a youngish guy, an attack dog for Bill. I've seen clips with him harassing the Vermont judge Bill had weeks of shows about, had him infilatrate a private party on a campus where under 21's were drinking (oh my!), and I've seen him on the show in studio before as well.
His job is to stir shit up with these people he purports to interview.
My last 2 cents: I'm an athiest and I think this reverand guy really know what he's talking about. Kudos.
Faux News and Billy O are bad for America!
In short, Fox Prolefeed is nothing but hypocrisy in the guise of the Fifth Estate.
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THIS FAUX REPORTER WAS USED!!!!!!
There are many.
I quit watching Faux News long ago. They are a network of shills and fakes. They've labeled Ron Paul a kook for holding similar views. Blowback and 'chickens coming home to roost" are one and the same.
Does anyone know the name of this "reporter"? I'd be interested to know what his background is.
Kudos! More!
First of all, kudos to this Father for continuing to represent himself and his beliefs in the face of a farce, masquerading as a reporter. No one should have the right to slander people the way this "reporter" is, and then tell people he is fair and balanced. I know, then the news will seem boring, but I'm not afraid of that; what are YOU afraid of?
For those of you who think this video is fake, you're mostly wrong. In my opinion, the video is what we call a feed, uploaded via satellite and recorded (presumably) by the producers of some Fox program in a different locale, probably the O'Reilly show. It has a Fox logo poorly keyed in the corner, but at that stage of the production, I'm not sure why. It's obviously and unabashedly edited, but there seems to be no attempt to hide that.
I think we all need to watch out for reporters who incite us and encourage us to draw false conclusions. This guy is a classic, and he really does give his best effort to twist the words of his subject. Too bad for him, he met his match.
I wish the entire interview feed had simply been posted, so we could maintain more objectivity. I'm not afraid of the simple truth, just those who package it falsely on either side of the fence.
I wish so much we, as a nation, could stop throwing stones (through the media), and have an intelligent, fair discourse about public policy. Our future is truly at risk, due to the inability of our mainstream media to maintain objectivity.
HE LET THEM HAVE IT!
I BET FOX WILL NEVER SHOW THAT INTERVIEW OVER AND OVER!
I cannot get over how so many good 'catholic' men and women can brush off this priest's observations of our culture.. They prefer to rely on the McCathyist Nationalism to pervue our culture....
- and there are many who could if they had the courage.
Thank you Father, God bless-
Thank you Father, for standing firm and refusing to give FOX the sound-bite they were shopping for.
Jack Irvine Ca.
Is he a racist, an idiot, or both? Does it matter?
Ann Farinacci
It's astounding! Must be somewhere around 25 to 30 times!!!
This punk is not a journalist. He's an ignorant guy simply trying to bait the Father to say a "Gotcha" sound bite that will fit nicely into his preconceived ideas about this story.
The Father would not be "BAITED!"
Way to go FATHER!!!
George
It's about time someone told the truth.
Father Flager, Jesus was speaking through you. God Bless!! Keep on doing what you're doing.
Rev. Wright- I did hear "the entire" speech at NCAAP in Detroit and the National Press in DC.
Brilliant, Heartfelt and True.
America has to stop trying to make things "go away". The impact of slavery, injustice and racism will never go away unless "America" apologizes,reconciles and transforms itself.
Rev. Wright, keep speaking the truth and God will keep speaking through you. You only need one person to be close to you and that is Jesus. He stood for the injustices, under priviledged and downtrodden.
Keep your Head Up! GOD BLESS!!
As a Catholic this priest disgusts me. He is uninformed and evasive. Rev Wright is a racist and delusional. How can a person who believes that the US Government invented AIDS be taken seriously? How can a minister who takes the name of the Lord in vain IN GOD'S HOUSE ("G.D. America") receive any respect?
People like Wright, Jackson, Farakkan, Sharpton et al are an embarassment to every Black person who works to improve themself. Instead of focusing on legitimate problems affecting Black people like high school drop out rates or teenage pregnancy, all they want to do is to shakedown the White man, whine about slavery, and invent ridiculous conspiracy theories. Now that's a great allocation of effort and resources. I have a news flash for all of you: there are no more slaves, and there are no more masters - so get over it.
As a Democrat, the way Obama has handled this megalomaniac Wright has been pathetic. He waited too long to denounce this loon. Forget about being the first Black President, his chance for the nomination has been squandered.
If this is the best Obama can do, he doesn't deserve to be president.
I'm voting for McCain.
I am only in my twenties, I have obtain a Bachelors in Psychology, and now am working on my masters and I am "improving" myself daily, but yet I have been called a "nigger" by whites more time then I can count on both hands. You tell me when will this stop! This man should not be judged by any one but God his creator. He just had the "balls" to say what a lot of African Americans that still deal with racism in this "freedom and liberty" country what they want to say out loud, and has a right to say it to people that seem to agree with him on the "sound bytes". Everyone has their own voice in this country supposedly. It just stings because some whites want to push it under a rug, like someone said earlier, instead of dealing with it. Racism still exist. America has not yet arrived to the place it needs to be. Just because your "white friends" don't expose it to your face I guess that is what makes it null and void. Some people are so naive and delusional... I don't care who you vote for who ever wins this presidential election it's because God allowed it. So we have to just deal with it, endure it, and gone on like we been doing.
and the world whats going on around them and
though I have not heard the entire Wrights speach
I think this news man is making his own news and
views rather than capturing TRUTH! But he picked
the wrong, well informed Pastor!
Dr. King's goal was to abolish segregation. What he and his followers endured while fighting for equal rights were things like sitting in the back of the bus, drinking from seperate water fountains, being excluded or separated in restaurants and other public places, being hosed down with fire hoses and spit upon, being beaten, and ultimately being killed, as Dr. King himself was. Name calling was a part of it too. It was degrading. People were made to feel that others thought they were inferior and less than human. It was a terrible thing that no one should have to endure.
Fr. Flager and Rev. Wright are complaining about the few ignorant wanna-be's that call them names. They also equate being stuck at the top of a building after a natural disaster without the proper amenities, medical attention with the kind of discrimination that Dr. King and his followers endures. Sorry... I don't buy it. Think about it... there is no comparison. One was on purpose and the other was a mistake. Dr. King and his supporters made greater sacrifices than they were already making, such as boycotting the bus and walking to work, to obtain the freedoms they deserved. Now, things are so much better. Every man's rights are equally protected the law but it is up to us to know what our rights are. That way, if harassed, we know what the law says, and we can counter those who try to intimidate us. But are name-calling and prejudice why some with dark skin are living in poverty and breaking the law? No. Otherwise there wouldn't be white-skinned people who also are living in poverty and breaking the law. Poverty and law-breaking has more to do with personal responsibility, individual choices, and sometimes, circumstances such as being in the wrong place at the wrong time, illness, the death of a loved one, divorce, rape, incest. These all happen to the best of us. Granted, there are many laws that still need to be changed and we have way too many micro-laws that not enough people know about today, which means that some of these laws make criminals out of innocent and unsuspecting citizens. We are losing our freedoms slowly because of these, but not exclusively black people, EVERYONE is experiencing this. Granted, police officers today choose to enforce some rediculous laws or risk losing their jobs and these truly make idiots of them when they arrest people for things that aren't even close to looking like a criminal act, but again, it is not a problem that is exclusive to black people. To people of all races and color: Let's stop thinking everyone is out to get us, inform ourselves regarding the law so we can stay out of trouble, and make Dr. King proud of us by working hard to take care of ourselves and our families and to preserve the freedoms that Dr. King and many others have given their lives to protect.
New Orleans was abandoned 'by accident'
there's no more racism in America!?!?
and 'millions' died after america was beaten in Vietnam
all nonsense
Politics aside -is this not the worst case of
identity confusion from a public figure ever
caught on tape?
---His real personality moved out decades ago!
---yikes
--BRING BACK A PERMANENT NO EXCEPTIONS DRAFT
THOUGH. THEN THOSE WHO DECIDE TO GO TO WAR
MUST SEND THEIR FAMILY TOO. FAIR'S FAIR.
---BUT AGAIN -THIS GUY'S GOT SOME CO-DEPENDENT
IDENTITY ISSUE THAT IS JUST PLAIN CREEPY.
-is an asshole."
Bob Dylan
Guardian interview
-Folks -issues aside. Do take a good look.