FOX Attacks!: FOX Attacks Decency… with Bill O’Reilly Leading the Way
billybush
· 2 years ago
"A la carte" cable television would only limit our viewing choices and lead to more salacious programming designed to pander to viewers. If you don't like Fox News, don't watch it or ask the cable company to block it from your home.
Raziorizzo
· 2 years ago
Hmmmmmmmmmm What about those who don't want to watch CNN ,MSNBC , CNBC or do you just want people to cut only Fox News out. But you do want the fairness doctrine back?? Just like a democrat. It's always what is convenient for them at that time. If people don't want to watch Fox News don't turn the channel to it ,block it on the cable box or shut you tv off. There are over 100 channels on cable go watch something else and stop being a hypocrite
Media Guy
· 2 years ago
From Inside Cable News:
The News Corp. report said cable network programming posted operating income of $289 million, an increase of $40 million from the year-ago quarter. The 16% growth reflects increased contributions from Fox News Channel, the regional sports networks and the Fox international channels; however, that growth was partially offset by launch costs associated with the Fox Business Network and the Big Ten Network as well as a lower contribution from FX.
The Fox News Channel more than doubled its operating income compared with the first quarter a year ago, primarily from increased affiliate revenues on higher rates and advertising revenue growth from higher volume and pricing.
And just comming back from a conference--your site was the butt of jokes and reticule--all you are doing is increasing business! Keep up the good work BNF!!!
Raziorizzo
· 2 years ago
What these guys don't realize is that if the cable companies go "a la carte" cable they will charge a minimum for cable service of about 40 dollars and let you pick 10 channels which means less channels for more money. Second thing is it will never happen. CNN will lose the few viewers they have and MSNBC will be off the air. They want to hurt Fox News , they will instead hurt other networks and Fox will still come out ahead. They distort.....we reply
Cape Cod Liberal
· 2 years ago
My father watches Fox "news" and loves it. Years ago he watched only the MacNeil/Lehrer Hour, and as a consequence was a well informed, thoughtful citizen. When he retired he began watching more television, and now is addicted to Fox's inept, biased, pandering and ridiculous "news". It such a shame. Now when the family gets together for birthdays, holidays, etc. it is impossible to have an intelligent conversation anymore with dad. He even tried to get a dialouge going about Brittany Spears at my last dinner party...I was shocked and embarressed for him. The tragedy is that his mind has been stunted and warped by this absurd channel. The whole family is so saddend...and dad can't even see how far he has digressed. I would love to opt out of FOX, but is that really the answer? Ignorant people will still watch it religously, and here's the scary part...vote. When European friends are visiting and ask me how a moron like George Bush could get re-elected, I sit them down in front of Fox "news" for an hour...and they get it.
Anonymous
· 2 years ago
This is stupid, I for one would like to see more gratuitous nudity on Fox News, it's more informative than the rest of the crap they spit out.
Heh, just to spite you, I'm going to go watch porn now.
tim
· 2 years ago
Better yet, ditch the cable and the TV altogether.
mikeT
· 2 years ago
While I heartily agree with the overall point of the Fox/decency video, I do have to take issue with the wording of the write-up. With few exceptions, no one is "forced" to pay for Fox News. Your cable bill is not like "death and taxes" - you don't have to subscribe. It might be a burdensome choice in many areas, but you do not have to subscribe to cable TV. Please be more precise in the language that you are asking people to endorse.
mrjohnson
· 2 years ago
Anyone see the hypocrisy here? Has Pat Robertson infiltrated BNF and started calling the shots. Since when are liberals and Democrats the arbiters of decency??? Who cares if Fox shows suggestive images? Like Raziorizzo says: change the channel.
As a long-time supporter, I've been really disappointed lately.
Joseph Csaszar
· 2 years ago
Strange how ppl suggest to change the channel instead of opting for "a la carte". The point here isn't whether you watch it or not; the point is that you fund Fox whether you watch them or not. Lets stay focused here.
Dale Leisenring
· 2 years ago
I STRONGLY believe that fox is the most false "news" on TV. Take action and boycott FOX and its advertisers! Take action and email your Congressional Representatives, join Democrats.com, Join VoteVets.org, etc. Whatever you do, make it an action with some power behind it! Whining about FOX and other Neo-Conservatives criminal behaviors does little, your emails and votes have an impact!! - Genuinely, Dale Leisenring
Media Guy
· 2 years ago
I signed it.
Fox News spews out garbage everyday and accuses other better news agencies of doing the same.
Fox News stinks.
Raziorizzo
· 2 years ago
I agree and I signed it.
jorge pineda
· 2 years ago
Looks like a cloaked Ehrenfeld is impersonating Raziorizzo and Media Guy. That's what regressives do when others have an opinion that differs from theirs. Don't think for one minute that they play fair. Be wary and stay armed. DVC
Raziorizzo
· 2 years ago
BAN FOX NEWS!!!! are the same guys yelling they want THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE BACK!!!
John Bliss
· 2 years ago
Where is the "Fox Attacks Decency..." petition itself? I like to know just what I'm signing before doing so. Did I miss a link?
Blue Collar Goddess
· 2 years ago
How very Liberal of you! I know, let's start burning books too! Wait, no ... I have a better idea, let's just always tell each other what to think, how to think it and when to to think it! Yeah! There's a reason it's called the LEFT WING, you guys aren't RIGHT.
Christian Hertzog
· 2 years ago
I hate the Fox News Channel and Bill O'Reilly, and I almost always agree with the viewpoint espoused by Robert Greenwald and Brave New Films, but I can't support this. Censorship is censorship, and that's what you're asking us to do. Freedom of speech means we have to put up with Fox News. Don't any of you see the irony of condemning the airing of shows which themselves condemn the airing of material some folks find offensive?? How po-mo! I'd love to have a la carte cable programming, but obtaining it this way is hypocritical. You can always have any channels you don't like blocked by your cable company. What I detest about cable TV channel packages is that I'm paying for 30 or 40 channels that I never watch, and I'd much rather pay $2 or $3 a month for the channels I want to watch.
truth machine
· 2 years ago
"Anyone see the hypocrisy here?"
Yes, we see it on Fox News -- duh.
James Howe
· 2 years ago
It's so hypocritical that Fox News and O'Reilly go on the air to basically condemn Liberals as the reason for all the problems in this country. The Republicans have been in control for the past seven years and have basically turned America into a divided, hated country involved in one illegal war and wanting to start yet another. People like O'Reilly and the idiots that support and believe the crap he spews out daily suffer from a serious personality disorder that prevents them from seeing the reality of what is really going on in this country. The problem goes even beyond that because even if they do eventually see what is happening, they don't care, as long as it isn't them that are suffering or it isn't their fault, although their way of thinking and the people that patronize that self-serving, me-only ideology are indeed the force that is bringing this country down. To believe the crap that Fox News and O’ Reilly put forth on a daily basis, one must be either stupid or evil, but sadly, I think many of their viewers are both, and if not stupid, at least ignorant.
Jonathan Steigman
· 2 years ago
Agree with some of the commenters; this is a very bad, regressive idea. A one-price-for-all basic cable subscription model allows the largest possible diversity of opinion and viewpoints. I don't watch any foreign language stations, or ESPN either, but I'm happy they exist and glad they're available to me if I ever want to see them. In fact, something very like this model is probably where the music industry is headed, too.
Don't forget that O'Reilly's viewers are subsidizing The Daily Show and The Colbert Report, too! Please stick with fighting Fox the old-fashioned way: by showing again and again that they're a pack of lying neo-fascists douchebags.
rane56
· 2 years ago
There are two issues here, one is the “a la carte” cable subscription availability, which is probably a good idea for a small majority of people who subscribe to cable, but obviously not good for the smaller networks who still get a piece of the pie because of package subscriptions. (Now I’m not sure if certain channels get more dough for having more viewers so I’m going on the assumption that its an equal distribution.) Although most people probably wouldn’t take the time and opt for the basic package, the pick and choose method may have a adverse effect on smaller stations like Democracy Now because of that possibility I can’t support this effort. If someone can show me different I would sign. The second seemingly having nothing to do with “a la carte” cable is Fox being hypocritical when discussing the “moral decline” while showing “scandalous” images and clips and also being partly responsible for that decline. I mean come on what do we expect from Fox? The only thing that makes sense is to continue to show people how biased and hypocritical they really are and attempt to force Fox into getting back to real journalism.
Me, Myself and I
· 2 years ago
Fox is a danger to society.
Exposer
· 2 years ago
ANOTHER DRIVE-BY FROM EHRENFELD:
Fox is a danger to society.
by Me, Myself and I 1 minute ago
Scott
· 2 years ago
You guys need to get the footage of the o'reilly factor showing "Paris Porn" it was @ June 20, 2007 show. I've looked for it and can't find it anywhere. Keith Olberman references it here at the end of his commentary. www.mediamatters.org Let me know where you found it. I actually sent the FCC a letter regarding the Paris porn portion of The O'reilly factor. If I remember correctly O'reilly was hypocritically lambasting a "pig and condom" commercial for being to offensive, then the next segment was about 90 seconds of Paris porn. I've search every where for it. Does fox have that much power to actually make it go away? Again, please let me know if you guys found it. Thanks, Scott
cj
· 2 years ago
Bill O' is right. Air American Sucked,and it's dead. Fox News is the ratings king, and the lefty loonies do not believe in freedom of speech. The loons want to ban anyone who doesn't agree with them. ROTF And, hey...good luck getting a la carte cable!! Too darn funny. Who are you irrelevant goofballs? Doesn't matter because, well...uh...YOU'RE IRRELEVANT. hahahahahahahahahahahahaha Thanks for the laffs.
David Fields
· 2 years ago
Fox is as hypocritical as many of its supporters. Apparently we have to rub their noses in their filth before they will admit to it.
Anonymous
· 2 years ago
Uh, Dave, we get all the filth we need right here.
Kevin
· 2 years ago
I read about your most recent concern over FOX and decency, I don't like FOX anyway I prefer Lou Dobbs on CNN, anyway sex sells and gets peoples attention thats the way it is, if you don't like what FOX is doing, DON'T WATCH!!! Turn the damn channel. Don't you people have anything better to do!!??
rufus1133
· 2 years ago
Fox labels itself as news, put presents lies attacks daily. they lie to the eldery daily for personal profit. Many know they are being lied to yet watch to consolidate the fascists propoganda. Scary day for america. The reason fox must be pulled and the fairness doctrine reenacted is for this very reason. The left does not want to silence these people. But if they are lying to the elderly about politics, they should have balance, some for of reality. And I'm not talking about liberal punching bags. I'm talking even representation. O'Reilly and the right silence liberals daily because they are "offened". Why can we not recipracate?
We are a self government. In a self government we relie on news to make informed decisions about the future of the country. Can we do that if we are given half truths and lies? No we can't. not to mention the conflicts of interest (Ailes running a rudy campaign, getting paid by big oil and drug).
Bring back the fairness doctrine. The right-wing attack machien then fails. Not because they are silenced. But because they will have someone there to tell the listeners that these propogandsits for profit are flat out lying for profit.
There time is almost up. Thank you Robert for doign the tough work. I can name 20 "leftistS" silenced or fired due to the right. Who on the right has been fired or silenced? Why can we not reciprate? The gop may make the all the rules. But do they then have to abide by the rules they create? Greenwald is trying to hold them to their rules. If we stand by and do nothing we are slaves to fascism. One way street. Thank you for showing fox and rush, what they do si not ok
Grayson
· 2 years ago
I hate Fox Noise. I signed the petition.
joel
· 2 years ago
I smell desperation. LOL so what's it say on your resume? or is it your full time paying job scouring the internet and gleaning video clips you allege supports your fringe ideology. all that would be interesting here is... who signs your check?
Anonymous
· 2 years ago
"...they lie to the eldery daily "
ROLMAO! and another Ehrenfeld trick: I hate Fox Noise. I signed the petition. by Grayson 23 minutes ago
anna
· 2 years ago
Fair and balanced? There's Fox News, for fair. For balance there's the hate-America hate-Bush hate-the-military totally left-biased mainstream media, MSNBC and CNN, Bill Maher, Rosie O, David Letterman, Michael Moore, Sean Penn, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.
Seems fair enough to me. Vote with your remote and $$$.
psssssssssstttt.........who's got the ratings, huh???
Read it and weep!
Khalid
· 2 years ago
Rejoice - Rosie won't be getting a job after all. Thanks Bill O for your help in exposing this antiAmerica pig!
Anonymous
· 2 years ago
VETERANS DAY IS THIS SUNDAY, NOV 11 FLY THE FLAG! SHOW YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE TROOPS!
Raziorizzo
· 2 years ago
I hope we do get "ala carte" cable. The maybe MSNBC ,CNN Headlines , MSNBC will the go away. I hope Hillary becomes President. It will be good for the terrorist. She will talk to them and reason with them. Maybe they will go away Be careful what you ask for.........you may just get it.
Michael Heister
· 2 years ago
I am no lover of Fox News. However, look at who's supporting a la carte - Phyllis Schlafly, James Dobson of Focus on the Family and the Parents Television Council, as Kansas City TV writer Aaron Barnhart reports.
My concern is that unbundling will not save us money, and may not get rid of Fox News, but may drive out niche channels I do happen to like, such as the Independent Film Channel (IFC) and Sundance. Channels that cater primarily to women or gays such as Oxygen and Logo may also not survive in an a la carte cable world.
If we support a la carte to attack Fox News may be cutting off our nose to spite our face.
Option B: write your cable company and complain about Fox News. Ask them to pull it from the basic service.
Anonymous
· 2 years ago
"Option B: write your cable company and complain about Fox News. Ask them to pull it from the basic service."
Yeah, right. I wrote two weeks ago to complain that I didn't get Fox Business Network. Today I got a reply that it will be added to my basic cable on 12/1. Should FOX ever be pulled from cable I will switch to satellite. Fuck you and your so-called free speech 'fairness act' progressives.
Raziorizzo
· 2 years ago
I love to read the comments.. "Fox is why I don't have cable in my house!" Do you spend alot of time on the internet?? "I hate being forced to pay for something I don't watch." Who is "forcing" you. Get rid of cable. No one is forcing anyone to do anything. You control what goes on in your house not the cable company. These people blame the cable company for Fox. The balme PS2 because their kids are bad. They blame government because they can't pay the mortgage. They blame McDonalds because their kids are fat. They blame cigarette companies because they got cancer. They blame Budweiser because they are an alcoholic. Do any of these people take ANY reponsibility for their actions?? Is it always someone elses fault for your shortcomings?? Lets take "In God We Trust" off the coin because someone got offended. Take the American flag down because "someone" doesn't like it. Don't say "Merry Christmas" because the person may get insulted. Is this what we have become? If you don't like Fox don't watch it. If you don't like Christmas ...well.........to bad. Get over it Get a life
jrshoes
· 2 years ago
Iam glad the fox Noise is on but only to be able to verify the crap that they spew out into the air which is now even more polluted. I can't believe that these idiots go home at night and sit down with family or friends and are actually the same people that you see on tv. This is all just a joke. Right? These people are paid to be this stupid on tv ane thats it, right? When you see them on the street over the weekend they are normal.???? NNNaahhhhh. Fox is full of jerks and thats that.
An Ameriican for sovergienty-R
· 2 years ago
Fox poll reporting and Shaun Hannity on radio telling a caller when asked about Ron Paul, Oh' he's not going anyhere, it's liking saying your vote will not count and neither will he. Will shove the freakin war machine of imperialism down our throats yet I among many exspouse to restore the Constituition of checks and balances to what it was and get out of the business of nation building and take care of the citzens here and not the entire rest of the world or UN which is a digrace like the oil for food scandal as is our monetary policies or the Federal Reserve, it just keeps printing money out of thin air, and will cause China and India to own this county, like every other asset to where it leads us towards a second or God for bid, third world status. People" Smell the Coffee and wake the hell up" Thanks.
Anonymous
· 2 years ago
Exposer, Grayson, Media Guy....ALL THE SAME PERSON
rufus1133
· 2 years ago
"Iam glad the fox Noise is on but only to be able to verify the crap that they spew out into the air which is now even more polluted. I can't believe that these idiots go home at night and sit down with family or friends and are actually the same people that you see on tv. This is all just a joke. Right? These people are paid to be this stupid on tv ane thats it, right? When you see them on the street over the weekend they are normal.???? NNNaahhhhh. Fox is full of jerks and thats that. "
Real funny. It would be funny. It would be a joke if my brothers and sisters weren't dying everyday. If ALL our resources weren't being sucked dry. Where is this money going? All these trillions? It went from a surplus of the nation, to all that money going to republcain gop contracts. If this is a gmae, I'm not laughing.
And to the gop bobbleheads that come here to lie spin and propogate like their avatars; get a life. Your masters are done. Conflict of interest. They are not news. What will you do without your avatars? You will have to think for yourselves. I know tha tis a scary concept dittoheads. But it's for your beneifit. If you like lies fascists and propogaters that's your business. But you should get a shrink if that's the case. really. You are funny to me. Us "liberals" do not fear you anymore. Now that our voice can get out. You silenced it for a few years and got us scared. CAn we recipracate, gop? Yes we can. Stop crying and whining. Your avatars have been silencing the left for years now. Ward churchhill, the dixie chicks, rosie, tome hanks, danny glover, sean penn, tim robbins teachers judges and on on on on. Why can we not recipracate? The gop has been silencing the left ofr years. If you don't want to play those rules I have a suggestion. STOP ATTACKING AND SILENCING LIBERALS. I doubt the right will stop their attack on america. So I will not stop my attack on them. Don't start what you can't finish, gop
Anonymous
· 2 years ago
billybush: "If you don't like Fox News, don't watch it or ask the cable company to block it from your home."
Fox News still gets paid over 75 cents per cable subscriber. With a la carte, you wouldn't have to pay that if you don't want to.
Raziorizzo: "What about those who don't want to watch CNN ,MSNBC , CNBC or do you just want people to cut only Fox News out."
A la carte means you can CHOOSE WHAT YOU WANT.
Raziorizzo: "If people don't want to watch Fox News don't turn the channel to it ,block it on the cable box or shut you tv off."
But if you have cable, you're still paying over 75 cents to Fox News for something you don't watch. You shouldn't have to pay that if you don't want the channel.
Media Guy: "And just comming back from a conference--your site was the butt of jokes and reticule"
Nice English there! "RETICULE" LOL. No way you make a good living in any media-related industry!
Anonymous: "Heh, just to spite you, I'm going to go watch porn now."
Porn is fine -- having to either pay Fox to produce "news" with soft porn, or else live with not having cable at all, is not fine.
mikeT: "With few exceptions, no one is 'forced' to pay for Fox News. Your cable bill is not like 'death and taxes' - you don't have to subscribe. It might be a burdensome choice in many areas, but you do not have to subscribe to cable TV."
Is that acceptable consumer choice in a free market? Either pay to fund the Fox Crap Empire and get 100 channels, or don't pay for Fox Crap and be forced to have 8?
mrjohnson: "Anyone see the hypocrisy here? Has Pat Robertson infiltrated BNF and started calling the shots. Since when are liberals and Democrats the arbiters of decency??? Who cares if Fox shows suggestive images? Like Raziorizzo says: change the channel."
No hypocrisy -- no one's saying make Fox News illegal -- we just don't want the crappy choice of either having to pay for Fox to make the sh*t, or give up cable altogether. As consumer choice, it's a joke.
Dale Leisenring: "Take action and boycott FOX and its advertisers!"
Even if you don't watch Fox and don't buy anything advertised on Fox, you're still paying them as part of your cable bill!
Blue Collar Goddess: "How very Liberal of you! I know, let's start burning books too!"
I don't wanna burn books, I just don't wanna PAY FOR BOOKS THAT I DON'T WANNA READ. I don't wanna PAY FOR FOX NEWS, OR ELSE GIVE UP CABLE COMPLETELY. As consumer choice, that's a joke.
Christian Hertzog: "Censorship is censorship, and that's what you're asking us to do. Freedom of speech means we have to put up with Fox News."
No, that's wrong. Censorship is deciding what other people can see. This is deciding what I PAY FOR, even if I'll never want to watch it. I'm paying the paycheck of the guy who thinks it's a great idea to put t1ts in all the stories. You're paying his paycheck. We don't want what he's spewing. They're DEFEATING market forces to get Fox more money.
cj: "the lefty loonies do not believe in freedom of speech. The loons want to ban anyone who doesn't agree with them."
Do you actually think that's an argument? IS ANYONE SAYING YOU CAN'T WATCH FOX? These are the arguments the right comes up with. Know what? YOU'RE NOT SMART.
Kevin: "if you don't like what FOX is doing, DON'T WATCH!!! Turn the damn channel."
That doesn't work. Even if you never watch it, you're still paying them, unless you get rid of cable completely.
We want to save the troops' lives, you want them to stay and get killed. End of story.
Anonymous: "VETERANS DAY IS THIS SUNDAY, NOV 11 FLY THE FLAG! SHOW YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE TROOPS!"
Amen.
Raziorizzo: "I hope Hillary becomes President. It will be good for the terrorist. She will talk to them and reason with them."
You're an idiot.
Raziorizzo: "'I hate being forced to pay for something I don't watch.' Who is 'forcing' you. Get rid of cable. No one is forcing anyone to do anything. You control what goes on in your house not the cable company."
That's consumer choice and the free market? Either fund something you hate, or get 8 channels instead of 200? That's no choice. It IS the same for you and MSNBC. You should be able to do the same thing.
Raziorizzo: "Take the American flag down because 'someone' doesn't like it. Don't say 'Merry Christmas' because the person may get insulted."
Who the hell wants to force those things? It's almost no one, but the right blows it up like that's what all progressives want, and we're evilly gonna destroy Christmas and the American flag. It's a joke.
ursoduh
· 2 years ago
you know what your frivolous and juvenile vendetta against fox news has to do with ala carte cable? not a damn thing.
here's my problem. i'm sick of having queers shoved in my face on EVERY tv station. It's a blatant attempt by the media to brainwash me into accepting homosexuality as "the norm". bet it works for you, huh? get turned on when you see two girls kissing (YUK!!!!) thinking about kissing one of your guy friends? hope you get your lights punched out. so, where's the petition I can sign block the queers, huh? to hell with Will & Grace, Bravo and their Queer Eye and HGTV!!! and what about those sexy sluts on MTV, huh??? sex sells music? to whore-moan-al little boys like you. where's the petiton, bud?
op
· 2 years ago
"Better yet, ditch the cable and the TV altogether."
Seconded heartily.
Having a television is far from a necessity.
No more cable
· 2 years ago
I ditched my cable TV when they refused to carry Fox Business Network. When I called DirecTV and asked if they carried FBN, the guy laughed and said, "Of course, we are controlled by News Corp!" I LOVED calling up the cable company and telling them to disconnect.
Thanks
· 2 years ago
I hope this passes, I'll save a bundle if I only have to pay for Fox News.
ROLMAO!
· 2 years ago
"Usama Bin Laden signed less than a minute ago
Those infidels at Fox lie about me all the time. Thank you allah for Brave New Films!"
"Adolf Hitler signed 2 minutes ago
Get them off the airwaves, no more free speech for you!"
navyvet50
· 2 years ago
Hitler and Stalin just blogged in favor of blocking all news channels but Faux. They love to see propaganda still alive thanks to Faux.
Moses
· 2 years ago
shuddup. fox is awesome.
Rick
· 2 years ago
Fox offers T&A; to get eyeballs for advertisers just like every other channel. They're not stupid. But to cover themselves with a pretense of morality they say 'naughty naughty' with a barely disguised wink. The psyche of these folks is generally stuck around 7th grade maturity concerning sex. And/or so repressed they'll preach against sexual candor while diddling little boys in the back room or tapping toes in airport rest rooms. Hypocrisy is fundamental to their character. What's surprising is that so many take them seriously. It's a hoot. BTW this is something of a red herring concerning a la carte, which I would like to see. But as the megacorporations that control the content on 98% of the TV have an agenda to make money at any cost to society overall, there's little chance this will change. It will be interesting to see how they take control of the internet as a means of content distribution. THAT's what net neutrality is really about, btw.
Marc Bookmeyer
· 2 years ago
Sexual images, words, thoughts these all invoke sexual feelings. We all are human and crave sexual energy, if it is repressed and I can slip you some guilty-free nuggets of skin under the guise of news... might you come back for more? Of course you would deny this factor when you evaluate fox news, your mind would skip over sexual energy as unimportant non-factor... This influence goes unseen, but still influencing you. Who wouldn't want to associate their product with an orgasm?
Media guy
· 2 years ago
To ?? No name
oh--I am so sorry for the spelling error!!
Ridicule!
Your (BNF and this site) still a joke any way you misspell it!
and who ever is posting under my name--grow up a bit--but what can you expect on this website??
Hollywood
· 2 years ago
I'm a progressive. But, no matter what side you're on, you're always going to be ashamed of your teammates. Fox News should live and die by the market. If the retards want to watch it and drool over Paris and her burger, and Bill's hectoring over the top puts them over the top, this is the foundation of our economy (scary) and well, if you like the first ammendment and democracy, you gotta lump it with Fox News, and not watch it, and not buy stuff that sponsors it.
To be pushing A la carte cable as a means to end Fox News is dopey. I'm sorry. I said it. If people watch it as part of their cable, and they buy a chinese menu style package from the cable company, don't you think that the red-tards are gonna pick the Fox box in the news column? Don't you think the horn dogs are gonna take the news with the most skin (never mind the sadness of people watching news for rocks offing).
A La Carte Cable is probably the end of a lot of things we like. Like BET. And E!. And Fox Sports (well, they're not better than the so-called Worldwide leader, but they're not really worse, either). And CSPAN2. And public access (if you haven't spent a Friday Night watching public access until 2 AM, you have no idea what I'm talking about... it's a great friday night in a big city like LA or New York). A La Carte sections the market and gives us less commonality to talk about.
Last thing. I dunno who these economists who suggest ALC pricing will lower prices are. When I did my MBA, our brilliant Managerial Economics professor (Martin Cripps, Bach, Master, PhD, econ, London School) suggested that you get people to buy stuff they aren't going to buy for a lower total price by bundling. When you break out the pieces, prices go up. Hell, when you get that catalog for the sausage company this winter, you can see A La Carte pricing versus bundles. Now, you might save by getting fewer channels. But, if you watch ESPN, be aware that it's the most expensive channel for a cable operator to carry, so it's going to be very expensive for you to carry. With a rightly unregulated pricing scheme, the stuff that's in demand will be priced appropriately, and, while you won't get Fox News because you're all right thinking people, you might get stuck with the same bill and fewer channels.
The only real option for a real American is what Real Americans have been doing all along. Steal cable and don't watch Fox News. It's the American way, along with not voting.
Tara
· 2 years ago
Can someone speak to the issue that a la carte will harm smaller, newer, and more educationally-focused cable channels which will now not have the resources to compete with the MTVs of the world? Will we lose The National Geographic channel because they can't pour a billion dollars into advertising like VH1 can?
Media guy
· 2 years ago
You’re an idiot signed 3 minutes ago
I want my MTV--talk about garbage on cable! And you complain about Fox??? Hypocrites! Good post!
BTW The post by Hollywood is correct--you go al la carte-say good bye to the smaller market channels like Nat Geo or HGTV, science channel they would be gone. Your most expensive channel is not fox- it is ESPN and ESPN2 then come the regional sports networks like YES and others---like it or not, this is a crazy idea with lots of collateral damage---and people that watch fox will still keep it--now about 2 million viewers daily (people that watch more than 15 minute segments a day)
cybervigilantes
· 2 years ago
This is no accident. This is deliberate mind-control programming intended to turn fragile minds into psychopaths and become willing participants in the pathocracy's warmongering political ambitions.This is an example of using scientific methods and technolgoy to manipulate pavlovian instincts. -VERY 'Brave new world' A book explain why the leaders of the US WANT and propagate this evil through society can be found here: www.ponerology.com further reading on www.sott.net
Chris
· 2 years ago
I wish all TV shows I watched randomly showed girls in bikini's. I must be a brainwashed psychopath, ready to be influenced by the politicians. Bill O'reilly is an ASS!
Anonymous
· 2 years ago
Senate Confirms Mukasey as Attorney General
Geo Lindsey
· 2 years ago
If you don't like Fox Noise, don't watch it! Unbundling cable subscriptions will kill independent media and alternative programming.
Steve .C.
· 2 years ago
I saw the video 8 times trying to find something wrong. Im gonna keep trying Maybe someone can help?
Judith
· 2 years ago
Don't join the censors! The FCC is not the friend of progressive values, of freedom of speech, of free media, of political openness.
This is a stupid, wrongheaded campaign. It will only come back to bite you.
Tim
· 2 years ago
Your article makes a good point, but it loses credibility because you come off like asses. You complain about O'Reilly being pompous, but the writer of the article is every bit as arrogant as Bill. Also, the clip is unfair. You string together a bunch of clips over weeks that Bill put on the air. That makes it seem like he puts that crap on there more than he does.
anon
· 2 years ago
thank you, i just fapped to that.
Free Thinker
· 2 years ago
Your hypocrisy is a delicious treat! You condemn Fox News for showing all of these images gratuitously, but you have done the exact same thing in your presentation. In fact, it's probably worse, because it is one long video of gratuitous displays. Keep up the brilliant irony!
Also, why is it that you are unable to solicit new channels of content without demanding that old channels be abolished? Is it that you are afraid that you couldn't compete in an open market? To be sure - CNN and MSNBC are as far left as Fox is to the right. By my count that's 2-to-1. And I saw that exact same Paris Hilton commercial on both of those channels! So what's your complaint exactly?
Admit it - you hate free speech because it means that people are allowed to offer thoughts and opinions that disagree with your own. Free speech is about ALL points of view, not just your own. For instance, I think you are an ass hat, but I still support your right to write whatever you choose. I *do not* support your opinions though. But I can do that, because I believe in truly free speech!
Zack
· 2 years ago
This is sorry, The human body is a beautiful thing and our Puritan society has completely destroyed our appreciation for the Human Body. We make sex seem as if it is a disgusting thing and we should shun it. No wonder there are so many sexual problems in America. Wake up, sex is not our problem. We need to focus on the real issues, quit wasting time on Fox news showing too much skin. If you don't like it there is a solution......turn your TV off.
JFK is rolling over in his gra
· 2 years ago
Free Thinker: Amen brother!
Centinel
· 2 years ago
I don't believe for 5 seconds that these lying jackoffs are concerned about decency. They are clearly just playing politics in a hopeless attempt to censor FOX.
Great plan, morons.
Volcanman
· 2 years ago
"Fox covered the war in Iraq half as much as MSNBC"
Something I would rather have happen. It seems as if everyone else and their brother is milking the war as much as possible.
Also, some of the clips came from paid programming advertisements. Just with that, all the credibility went down the drain.
Raziorizzo
· 2 years ago
WAY TO GO GUYS!! THEY MUST BE DEFEATED!!! HILLARY MUST BE STOPPED!!! They are anti-American military haters who would like to see nothing else than a weaker America. They use the troop death as a boxscore. CNN never failed to report a single troop death in Iraq but when NO TROOP DEATH occured not a single word from CNN. Now that violence has quelled and Al-Qaeda has been squashed in Iraq not a single word. Who is doing more damage? CNN or FOX You disort.......we reply.
cybervigilantes
· 2 years ago
If you don't see anything wrong with showing erotic images mixed with audio of serial killer reporting then you need to read this: www.sott.net
Raziorizzo
· 2 years ago
>> Subject: Fwd: Hillary's Indian Name >> >> >>>> Hillary's Indian Name >>> > >>> > Senator Hillary Clinton was invited to address a major gathering of >>> > The >>> > American Indian nation two weeks ago in upper New York State. >>> > She spoke for almost an hour on her future plans for increasing every >>> > native >>> > American's present standard of living, should she one day become the >>> > first >>> > female President. She referred to her career as a New York Senator, >>> > how >>> > she >>> > had signed "yes" for every Indian issue that came to her desk for >>> > approval... >>> > >>> > Although the Senator was vague on the details of her plan, she seemed >>> > most >>> > enthusiastic about her future ideas for helping her "red sisters and >>> > brothers". At the conclusion of her speech, the Tribes presented the >>> > Senator with a plaque inscribed with her new Indian name - Walking >>> > Eagle. >>> > The proud Senator then departed in her motorcade, waving to the >>> > crowds. A >>> > news reporter later inquired of the group of chiefs of how they had >>> > come >>> > to >>> > select the new name given to the Senator. They explained that >>> > Walking >>> > Eagle >>> > is the name given to a bird so full of shit it can no longer fly.
moron.org
· 2 years ago
Seems to me, this site has the 'porn' on it..but you scream about Fox!
Free thinker is right on--you wish to supress speach on the right, not the left--freedom of peach in the 1st person only.
There is a word for you Cliff--HYPOCRITE!
Agent86
· 2 years ago
Okay chief, lower the cone of silence over Fox News.
You people should never scream free speech again. You are such losers, seriously.
Steven
· 2 years ago
Sex drives society in so many ways it's hard to deny it. You can bitch all you want, but sex is here to stay. It's aways going to be around, I want it, almost everyone who posted on this video/article wants it, it's obvious that our society wants it. Why do you think the public wants it. Stop being a prick. Enjoy the tits and ass if the girls want to show it, and if you don't want to see it turn your eyes away or change the channel. Don't make the rest of us waste waste our time bitching at people like you. I missed like 3 minutes worth of sexual content to post this message...you greedy bastard you!
Navyvet50
· 2 years ago
The people supporting Faux using sex to sell news should look up the definition of hypocrite. As for the a la carte idea to lower cable fees, I am against it. We all watch cable channels that cater to a small segment of the population-Golf channel-Court TV-C-Span. I do not want the trolls on this site to lose their favorite channel even if it is Faux. I just block it on my TV on my end and laugh at the people who think it is a News channel.
Dale Leisenring
· 2 years ago
Firstly, FOX news is not news! Fox is the mouth piece of the Neo-Conservative Right Wing Republican spin machine!
Secondly, FOX attempts to attract audiences through titillation by using footage of scantily clad females who have NOTHING to do with the story!
Enough said.
Brett
· 2 years ago
You only want to censor it if it does not share your ideals. What trash...
steve
· 2 years ago
How is your use of the video to scold Fox any different then Fox using it to scold the public? Looks to me like you are using sex to get people to read an article that should be on the "A-LA-CARTE" cable system, which is what the petition is really for, right?
beverins
· 2 years ago
"Seems to me, this site has the 'porn' on it..but you scream about Fox! Free thinker is right on--you wish to supress speach on the right, not the left--freedom of peach in the 1st person only. There is a word for you Cliff--HYPOCRITE! "
So.. let's get this straight.
FOX can show tits and ass, yet moralize against showing tits and ass. "Here! look at this DISGUSTING PORN!! Aren't her huge, round tits just ABHORRENT?" This is basically what Fox is doing.
You want to call Cliff a hypocrite? Fox is the biggest one of all. Is that what Republicans do..? Do they take out the most vivid porn, and watch it all the way through, but all the time moralizing against it? "Oh, look at the size of that! As Jeeeezus is my witness, he should be nailed to the cross for that.. oh my lord, look at what he's doing with it now! How can she do that? This is immoral!"
And all this, while Right-Wing Christian groups want to BAN THE SALE OF PLAYBOY TO OUR TROOPS IN IRAQ. So it's cool that they get shot, but they cannot relax from the shell shock with some T&A;?
So, before calling Cliff a Hypocrite, look in the goddamn mirror, people.
beverins
· 2 years ago
Fox News should be renamed T&A; News - at least then people would know that the "news" they were getting was trash.
BY THE WAY - for all your Fox News Righties out there. The moment that Democrats get elected, and the ratings are HIGHER for pro-Democrat and anti-republican slanted news.... Fox WILL shift to bashing Republicans. You will see stories about how messed in the head Bush Jr. was. Mark these words, Fox lovers.
sick of this B.S. on this site
· 2 years ago
I have a satellite XM receiver--tonight driving home I tuned in 'Special Report' for the 1st time--I found no more or less bias than mainstream media that I tend to listen to. (usually ABC) The reporting was quiet good. I plan to watch it on a more regular basis now that I have listened to it. (TIVO-I get home late).
Now this is on radio so I can't comment about all the brew ha-ha on T&A; but it seems to me there are 100's of other channels to tune into. If T&A; is a problem, you should be railing against MTV and VH1.
As for Fox vs. whomever, I saw the same garbage on Paris Hilton the other day on MSNBC, which just, to be blunt, is tilted as far left as Fox is to the right.
That does not seem to bother Cliff or the other BNF writers.
To follow Cliff's convoluted logic, we should just have 1 station that this site and media matters agree with---To go ‘a la carte’ would most likely kill smaller franchises, and paradoxically would hurt MNSNBC even more because its ratings suck.
Sex sells--gee what a shock! I had no idea!!
This is a thinly veiled, transparent attempt to censor a cable channel you don’t like.
Freedom of speech cuts both ways Cliffy boy-and yes, you ARE a hypocrite.
Get a life--better yet, get a remote and turn the freeking channel and quit bitching over a cable news channel 'you watch so other don't'.
somebody
· 2 years ago
why does it seem like the majority of posters here watch fox news?
i could swear every single point made here by posters who seem to hate this article are the same exact arguments i hear on fox?
I mean down to the rhetoric and name calling..
It's sad to see the blind hatred and parroting of fox lineup's one liners, do you people actually ever stop to think about what is being told to you?
Seriously.. maybe it is true, maybe it isn't.. is it worth it to you to search for opposing opinions that run counter to Fox news just to see if Fox is telling the truth or not?
There are a lot of independent WORLD news organizations.. look around, see for yourself.. it's possible Fox isn't as fair as you might think.. but don't take my word for it find out for yourself... what's to lose?
Look for facts that can be verified, not a talking memo/point/one liner.. please, for the sake of the country.
by sick of this B.S. on this s
· 2 years ago
Hey somebody: Did you bother to READ my post I noted I also watched MSNBC--??!!
as I noted they are as left as Fox is right
DirecTV has FBN!
· 2 years ago
Once we Fox watchers get tired of interacting here and leave, it will just be a bunch of regressives agreeing with each other! How boring that will be! Do you want us to stay?
Anonymous
· 2 years ago
SIOUX CITY, Iowa — Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton’s campaign admitted Friday that it planted a global warming question in Newton, Iowa, Tuesday during a town hall meeting to discuss clean energy.
Clinton campaign spokesman Mo Elliethee admitted that the campaign had planted the question and said it would not happen again.
NavyVet50
· 2 years ago
"sick of this B.S. on this site" is just the kind of moron we need on this site. Another brain dead Repug who does not know that MSNBC has some conservative talking heads on their network. Faux has no liberals with their own show. Other news channels hard news or business shows are just that and not a platform for right-wing nut jobs like on Faux. If you cannot tell the difference you are not paying attention, or you are a moron. Repugs-No ideas, nothing but fear!!!!!
Brant
· 2 years ago
Who really cares what this station does? Just don't watch it. Some people might prefer to watch these shows. So does it really affect you in the long run? It seems like a lot of you spend more time criticizing the station when you could just live your life and ignore it.
by sick of this B.S. on this s
· 2 years ago
Hey navyvet What do you call Allen Colmes? I believe he is a liberal--
As for MSNBC: Tucker Carlson show has been DROPPED on PMSNBC
so much for balance
pay attention yourself, Moron! or are you suffereing from PTSS watching too much of Olbermann?
sick of this B.S. on this site
· 2 years ago
I called my cable company and dropped Fox News.
Raziorizzo
· 2 years ago
I believe MSNBC is the best network to watch for the correct news.
Media guy
· 2 years ago
I agree with you Raziorizzo
media guy-the real one
· 2 years ago
Nice to see little liberal children at play posting on other peoples monikers!
I agree with you Raziorizzo by Media guy about 2 hours ago
+0
I believe MSNBC is the best network to watch for the correct news. by Raziorizzo about 2 hours ago
Anonymous
· 2 years ago
by sick of this B.S. on this site Alan Colmes? Is that all you have? He does not have his own show? Boy, you are a bigger moron than even I thought. The liberal media has right-wing nut Glenn Beck, Morning Joe, and Tucker. When Colmes gets his own show then you might have a point. You win!! You are the biggest moron.
Repugs-No new ideas--Nothing but Fear!!!
Anonymous
· 2 years ago
Thanks Media Guy-Liberal Cable 2,006,000 Faux News 1,821,000 You have one brand to choose from and I have four. Thanks for showing Faux loses.
Repugs-No new ideas-- Nothing but Fear!!!
NavyVet50
· 2 years ago
Last two posts mine and mine.
Media guy
· 2 years ago
You are right. The liberal media does beat Fox News.
My apologies.
Anonymous
· 2 years ago
hey navy vet Are you suffering from PTSS or PMS???
AH HAAAAAAAA
· 2 years ago
You ADMIT the rest of the cable spectrum is liberal!!!
finally--the TRUTH emerges from whomever!
Thanks Media Guy-Liberal Cable 2,006,000 Faux News 1,821,000 You have one brand to choose from and I have four. Thanks for showing Faux loses.
Adolf Hitler
· 2 years ago
We need only one state-run news agency, not all these various corporate profit mongers.
Phat Chance
· 2 years ago
You call that gratuitous sexual imagery? Yes, there's little point to it, but it's better than looking at Bill O'Reilly's mug for 19 seconds more than necessary.
Fact is, that while they are biased, and in O'Reilly's case, lousy human beings, of the images shown, only about 30% were actually explicit. You see worse on MTV, why is it such a big deal when Fox does it? I hate Fox as much as any self-respecting human with an IQ that reaches double figures, but this is a cheap shot, a poorly constructed and badly thought through criticism.
AH HAAAAAAAA
· 2 years ago
I apologise to all the liberals here.
Steve
· 2 years ago
Actualy this is kinda funny. I mean why is there even an argument. We are on a web site called FoxAttacks and we are surprised and angry that every article is a hit piece? LAUGHABLE
Oscar
· 2 years ago
Robert Greenwald is nothing more than a hate-mongering Socialist Democrat guttersnipe.
Oscar
· 2 years ago
But I also cant stand Fox News.
They are right-wing loons.
Media Guy
· 2 years ago
This website has gone from bad to worse--now YOU CAN BURRY posts you don't agree with!
What a joke--why even have a blog for debate if you do not wish to hear/see the other side--typical liberal rules!
pssssssssssst this
Media Guy
· 2 years ago
I know my last post is childish but this is really starting to get to me. Fox News is losing viewers and although I try, I can't see to stop it.
My last post
· 2 years ago
Liberals Tree Linching
Some assembly required
Good night to this site -mg
Media Guy
· 2 years ago
Im "My last post"
steve allen
· 2 years ago
See the latest from Fox NFL Sunday:
If you have not seen this segment from the 11/10 Fox NFL Sunday program you should watch.
Jimmie Kimmel with Pacman Jones (suspended from the NFL for numerous law and league violations) on the phone from a set made to look like a strip club with two scantily clad babes, raining US currency, and Jones announcing this Sunday's picks . Fox, the self-appointed guardian of decency, family values and lookout for the war on Christmas. Frankly, I could not believe my eyes. You have to wander what Howie, Bradshaw and the rest really thought about the segment. But one has to remember who owns that network. Culture Wars - what a laugh!
Raziorizzo
· 2 years ago
Steve, You can't be serious about that segment. You think maybe ,just maybe, it would have something to do with ratings. It was a spoof. They were kidding. I bet they had beer commercials. You guys are just a little over the edge huh. One thing I don't understand. If you guys hate Fox so much why don't you stop watching it? Leave the people who watch it and like it alone. It's funny how hypocritical you guys are. You want the fairness doctrine but want to silence Fox. You support the troops and refuse to fund them. You want to win the war in Iraq and try setting a date for defeat. You worry about global warming and drive an SUV. There is no war on Christmas but want to change the name to Winter Holiday. You say the war is lost but we are making progress. Where do you stand? Where would you stand next month? 6 months from now? Next year?
amcorona
· 2 years ago
MSNBC will be featuring a similar segment tonight on countdown with Keith Oberman (8 pm eastern - Nov 12th).
Janelle
· 2 years ago
I feel sorry for all the defenders of FOX News. It may be the only way they can see T&A.; The way they defend it sounds so desperate. A "news" channel is not the right media for it though guys. If you want T&A;, you should watch MTV or those other channels you mentioned, unless your mommies blocked them.
Raziorizzo
· 2 years ago
Janelle , Please tell me your smarter than how you sound. Did your daddy really want a boy and got you instead? It either that or your frustrated. Know what I mean (wink wink)
Raziorizzo
· 2 years ago
I'm sorry for my last post, it was childish.
Raziorizzo
· 2 years ago
I'm sorry for my last post, it was childish.
observer
· 2 years ago
This site used to be a place where one can exchange ideas--now posts can be buried!
It sounds to me like media matters has changed your marching orders from idea expression to censorship--shame on you
Chris
· 2 years ago
Fantastic campaign: this has to be one of the sharpest and most effective satirical campaigns ever. And the most badly needed. I prostrate in your direction.
Ray Kondrasuk
· 2 years ago
Fair and Balanced?
Or Bare and Phallused?
Jaron
· 2 years ago
Oh come on. I definitely agree that fox is a despicable corporation and things need to be done but is this the battle you really want to have? Fox is far from the only network doing this. This is a symptom of our entire media climate that makes news about entertainment. Focusing on something like this and making it seem like Fox's fault is exactly what they do all the time and it gives Brave New Films and Robert Greenwald a bad name.
Jaron
· 2 years ago
Wanted to add that I did sign it.
Pamela
· 2 years ago
I've very uncomfortable with this latest campaign about Fox's exploitation of sex on its shows. Sure, they're hypocrites, but what you're asking us to do is tantamount to censorship. This is very similar to the feminists going after the porn industries in the 1980s and sounding as bad as the Far Right on issues of sexuality and nudity. I consider myself a liberal and a feminist, and frankly I don't care if there is nudity and suggestive sexuality on tv. Let's not be hypocrites ourselves and demand free speech (in its multiple forms) yet try to censor Fox for its focus on sexuality. Come ON! There are more important battles to be fought. ______________
Dan Mortenson
· 2 years ago
Jaron, what "battle?" The producers did not make this short in order to enter a direct contre-temps with Faux, but as commentary. Would you rather the video were never produced? Is slathering sex all over the channels "just normal" to you?
Pamela, let's be clear about what BNF is "asking" (I prefer the term "inviting") you to do.
The post on this page, by cliffshecter, doesn't tell, ask, or even invite action of any sort. You can only be refering to the link to a petition asking the FCC to require cable providers to unbundle their channels; which would allow you to not pay for the ones you disapprove of. (doesn't apply to me- I don't have an idiot box)
If you would view not paying for those channels as censorship of some sort, that's your call. But unbundling would follow the Free Market Ethic, to not pay good money for something you don't like.
What Faux's gratuitous sex is all about is keeping their viewership. It's in the book: to keep your "programmees" from using actual brain cells while watching, you continually appeal to their very basest levels of response (Jaron, this is for you too).
It's all very scientific, thanks to Joseph Goebels and fifty years of Madison Avenue. I know people who watch Faux just for this sort of stuff, and then stay for the propaganda. In Faux's case, it's also a fight for life, because their advertizers will bail if people quit watching.
Which is why you are being invited (by me) to go sign the petition.
Mary A. Wilkowski
· 2 years ago
That media has a liberal bias or slant is yet another of the right-wing's "down is up," "white is black," "Clean Water Act means corporate pollution," Alice-through-the-Looking-Glass lies, that, if repeated ceaselessly, miraculously become the Truth. In fact, SIXTY PERCENT (yes, 60%) of the media are conservative, twenty percent are liberal, and twenty percent are impartial. So there! Spare us from the raging right and its idiot-in-chief.
unreal
· 2 years ago
this makes me sick. everyone posting trying to act like this video compilation is wrong! fox put this stuff out there! but this person who compiled this video, and the website who actually has the balls to put it out there...they are the ones in the wrong?
you are all insane. anyone who likes fox is more than likely a christian, catholic, claims to have "values", has to control what goes on in everyone else's bedroom and make everyone feel guilty while you are probably the one indulging your sick perverted mind under the guise of "fox news."
you are all the sick old white men that love to watch fox news anyway, i can see why you want it to continue!
FUCKIN PERVERTS. our children are being exposed to this.
Rainlillie
· 2 years ago
I'm not sure who the uptight prudes are anymore.
Faux and the neocons or foxattacks.
Rick
· 2 years ago
Well, I read all the posts here to date, and I agree with the " Change the channel" people. If ya don't like Fox News, and the " So Called Porn "..then go watch Cops, or CSI, or MTV...Listen to the Violent Rap Music, or See People with there Head Blown apart, or a Cop, beating a Person for trying to Resist the type of arest that was being made on them..To Me thats all Very Offensive !!!..But im not going to scream about how this is Wrong to show..some things to me are wrong, some not..I CHOOSE THAT. ! if I don't like it, I don't watch it..I don't need to see it to know it's there...I have children in this home, and I Refuse to have Rap music in this house, as well as Violent TV viewed by the kids..and I Teach them Values, and right from wrong. All I can hope for, is they retain those values as they grow up..because when there on there Own...then there on there Own..the make there own choices, Like to CHANGE THE CHANNEL if they don't like whats on..its not up to me to decide for them at that age, the same as it's not up to you, or anyone to decide what I watch, or Don't watch, Were all adults, and it's to late to have someone teach us the Values we should already have by now...so my point here is.. I Will Decide, and no one has the right to decide for me, Like the seat belt Law..I Don't wear mine, it's my choice, and my right to decide if I will wear it..and I choose Not to. So If I watch FOX, or Wear my seat Belt, or Listen to Rap, Watch the Playboy channel, or watch Real porn..My Choice, My Life. and FOx has the Full American Freedom to show what they want, and how they want..and you have the Right to NOT WATCH IT!..don't interfere with my Rights, and what I do in My home. There is a Porn shop here in the town I live in, and there is of course a road passing this shop, I don't try to have the road removed !!..I just don't go in the store, if I want to protest it. and Like WalMart..I refuse to shop there..there are plenty of home town small buisness places here to get what I need. If ya Don't like a Dodge, buy a Chevy, or Ford.. Don't try to Put Dodge out of Buisness because ya don't like what they make. they are only one of your choices in life..Feel Lucky you have a Choice. so have a Decent Life, Its up to you, and only you. You Have Plenty of Channels to Choose from. find one ya Like, and leave the other people alone with there choices, because I REALY DON"T CARE What you watch,thats your choice, and you will not stop me from watching what I want..It's My Choice so have a Decent Life, Its up to you, and only you. Rick
Raziorizzo
· 2 years ago
You are 100% right Rick. Couldn't of said it better myself. Do we want to go back to pre-cable times when we only had channels 2,4,5,7,9,and 11? If you don't like what you see , like you said, change the channel. You always have a choice. They should be happy they have a choice. Have a Happy Thankgiving and God Bless America
This is the stupidest thing I have ever saw. Very nice way to snip clips to promotes value in you crappy agenda. This sucks.
Cos
· 2 years ago
While I agree that Fox is hypocritical and ironic, I still don't want to have anything to do with attacking a broadcaster for showing sex. I wish more would do it. I wish Fox would stop being hypocritical about it, too, but this particular campaign seems to be aimed at getting advertisers to pull because of the sexy content, not because of the politics. I think that's wrong, so I oppose this campaign.
I fully support embarassing Fox by spreading that video, though. At least then the goal can be to get them to stop condemning "liberals" for supposed "depravity".
Eric Arnold
· 2 years ago
If you sponsor this crap, you are being gravely mislead because it is NOT new but, at best, soft-core porn.
Eric Arnold
· 2 years ago
If you sponsor this crap, you are being gravely mislead because it is NOT new but, at best, soft-core porn.
Disgusted
· 2 years ago
I see that that right-wing reactionaries that repsonded here didn't get your point: its not a question of changing channels but whether we should be forced to subsidize this filth. Of course, if they could have read well enough to understand your message, they probably wouldn't need to have their simplistic pap spoon-fed to them by FOX...
lostinlodos
· 2 years ago
My apologies, but as much as I despise the Fox Fantasy channel and it's You Report, We Distort form of fantasy news; to ask anyone to withhold advertising because of sex violates my principles, specificity that sex should be open and public, that it is a natural part of existence; our primary reason for existence (I don't believe in any religious cloud people reasons for existence), and that there is not enough gratuitous sex on television. As such, I can not ask them to withhold add dollars for that reason, especially when there ARE real reasons to withhold said add dollars, such as the FACT that they do not report news, rather opinions, often with no factual evidence to back it, no fact finding, no investigation at all.
r. hailey
· 2 years ago
SEX, MONEY & POWER!
In the back room, limo, public restrooms and anywhere the media can't find them.
The republicans are finally showing americans their true colors.
roberto michel
· 2 years ago
Excuse me! Wrong is wrong. Please quit making excuses for faul folks, Irrisponsible to their society. Let's stop the nonsense!
Non Bryant
· 2 years ago
It is time to quit subsidizing hypocrisy
Linda G
· 2 years ago
I have joined in condemning Fox so-called News for their blatant defense (in court!) of their right to lie on the air and call it news, for their hypocrisy, for being a right-wing propaganda machine, and for having the audacity to claim to be "fair and balanced"; but *I* would be the hypocrite if I condemned them for showing sexy images! Who started this "anti-smut" campaign coming from the liberal side? We're supposed to be anti-hypocrisy, not anti-sex!!!!
If I were to start complaining about what I have to pay for with my cable service, it would be all those stupid sports channels! AND Faux News - but because of their hypocrisy and hate-filled right-wing slant, not their use of gratuitous sexy images.
gothicsquish
· 2 years ago
While I can't stand Fox, and despise hypocrisy even more, I also cannot be supportive of a campaign that also is asking for censorship, and using terms like "smut"
If you had come at it simply from the point that they were being hypocritical, I would be all for this.
Sarah
· 2 years ago
Okay - there are a lot of people that are saying - "we're liberals, we're supposed to be FOR sex! this campaign is stupid!" Well, back off people. I'm as liberal as they come and I was seriously offended when they were reporting on the Daytona killer and playing shaking asses in bikinis next to the "serious" commentator. To me, the loud and clear implication was that Daytona and spring breakers are debaucherous so let's not feel too sorry for the people who are shot there. It's offensive. I'm all for sex and skin but it is wrong to put "girls gone wild" scenes next to serious news stories. I want advertisers to be aware of what they are supporting.
Bernita
· 2 years ago
It's not about censorship or even about the smut, it's about the right of the people to pay for what they want, and not pay for what they don't want! I don't want to see scantily clad beach bunnies and buddies, nor do I want to hear or see the pompous blowhard aka Bill O'Reilly. So can I please choose my channels?!
justathought
· 2 years ago
Let's think this thing through...
Issue #1, Does Fox news portray itself in the same manner it describes itself?
Issue #2, Is soft core porn (or suggestions of such) acceptable for prime time television (my guess is if this were deemed unacceptable much of what is already aired would find itself off the 'idiot box')?
Issue #3, Does an anti-porn opinion make one a conservative or feminist? Or, to put the question another way, do you have to be pro-porn if you are a liberal?
These seem to be the issues with many of the commentators on this site. Americans love to give there opinion about issues and most of them conform to those already expressed because our 'culture' is what is referred to as 'mass culture', which in essence, confirms that even if we disagree the reasons cited are common vernacular.
I would challenge all of you to sit down and think about your opinions. First, are we all not hypocrites? Second, are we more than hormones and sex - and if not, what the hell are we doing living in organized, highly complex, societies? Finally, is this fear of censorship really the issue - are there other areas of media censorship that we are ignoring (I can't remember the last time a communist or anarchist received respectable airtime). We certainly don't air the number of international channels (or anywhere close) to the amount available. And please don't allow your brain to respond with the programmed, 'well noone would watch them anyway' response.The point is not whether someone would watch it, according to your argument, but whether if it is an option, then it ought to be available, even if no one would buy it.
Robert Drew
· 2 years ago
If you don't like what FOX is airing Turn on a different station. No one is forcing you to watch it. (Or any other station)
Sammy P
· 2 years ago
Its not about the smut. Porn is completely fine. What fox is doing here is promoting there station with soft core porn (which happens to sell really well) while denouncing to stay in line with the beliefs of the average viewer. This is some subliminal shit they are throwing at you. If you're focusing on the what the reporters are saying you don't necessarily realize "hey, why are they showing people partying on spring break while they're talking about a murder" Instead you get aroused while watching fox without realizing it and come back to it for news everyday since they always show some big ol' titties.
I am henry Ballsitch...Licka M
· 2 years ago
Licka Miballza
Mister Pishitzka
· 2 years ago
Hail Mary , Full of Grace the Lord is with The.........and Mitt Romney too....HA-HA !
CNN is going with sex, too. They show naked Paris Hilton, painted in gold, and had to have shown her at least a dozen times AND they showed a clip of her tape (i think). They were on the subject so WHY NOT also bring up Pam Anderson for a few breast shots and the beginning of her sex tape.
Not only that, but the CNN host was like..."Great point, but we're running out of time and I have to get to this next add..."
Demi
· 1 year ago
Your bitterness will get you nowhere. Sorry.
Psychaotic
· 1 year ago
I agree with the folks who think Faux has far worse aspects to attack, but as I reach the bottom of the page I realise none of the commenters are getting the point. The anti-sex-leagueish slant on this is to help turn conservatives off Faux! Duh...But in all fairness it took me a little time for the light bulb to go PING! over my noggin - then, I thought, oh of course that's what they're doing this for. Hope it gets Rupert peeved.
etta
· 1 year ago
wicked immoral bill oreilly
Jamn
· 1 year ago
As usual, liberals spate hate using erroneous statements and out of content material to try, try, try again to convince someone, who doesn't give a shit anyway, that they know what the hell they're talking about. (yes, it's they're and not their). If liberals spent as much time reading a cross spectrum of material instead of busting our balls by Bill bashing (say that fast three times), they might have a clue, and they may be able to carry on an intelligent conversation. Intelligent liberal . . . isn't that an oxymoron? Get a life, dummies!
Jomon
· 1 year ago
It amazes that liberal refuse to believe that the moral decency and values of this country are unchanged, which is what they are implying when they beat Bill O'Reilly over the head for stating that watching Paris Hilton (ho-hum, with the emphasis on HO!) slither around a vehicle half naked is a ridiculous way to sell hamburgers. Why don't you liberal fools finally face the truth. It is a ridiculous way to sell a hamburger. Now was that so hard? If you agree, then there's hope for you yet. I have discovered through many hours of online chatting in political chat rooms that liberals have no clue what their candidates stand for. I would ask them during the last pres election what John Kerry's platform was. They would reply, "Bush looks like a monkey." That's downright embarrassing! When God was in schools, kids didn't carry guns or cuss out their teachers. Liberals have no idea what respect means. No idea what moral fortitude means. When did these things become 'undesirable'? And to use absolutely incorrect statements such as saying that the average viewer likes porn and sexy hamburger commercials is a sad representation of just how desparate - and unenlightened - liberals really are. They pulled the commercial very quickly, morons, when the 'real' average viewer spoke up. I don't partner liberals and democrats automatically. I believe there are many good democrats out there who are hoping that another John Kennedy will spring up from the political pool. Many democrats attend church. The loudmouths who are woefully ignorant are the Godless ones. And they are a minority. So, "who do you say that I am?", you sophomoric leftists? I am an average viewer. So grow up and deal with it. That "quote," by the way, is from the Bible. Maybe you should try reading it. I pwomise it won't burn your wittle eyes out. Don't be afwaid. I almost hope a dummocrat (meaning: a Godless, far left moron using the Democratic party as a means to achieve nationwide domination) wins the election. At least maybe, MAYBE, we stand a chance of at least a partial reprieve from your inane, uneducated, poorly-spelled spating. The way you go on and on about stupid, unimportant issues, (for instance, bad mouthing Fox News about reporting on unimportant issues) brings to mind my dog, which spends countless hours going around in circles trying to lick his ass. Maybe there is something to this THEORY of evolution. I am more and more convinced that conservatives were created by God. And liberals came from monkeys. If you respond to this, and like, posts . . . try and make some sense for a change. And see if you can complete an entire sentence using at least 1 BIG WORD, without a misspell, or without using the 'F' word. I (don't) think you can.
spike
· 1 year ago
I am tired of people with closed minds. You democrats, like our democrats in canada, only like to see and hear things they agree with. I watch both CNN and Fox and I find the latter much more balanced than CNN. You people will find out what taxes mean when you finally get totol liberal government. You also will sadly learn what socialized medical system is...Particularily when you Doctors go on strike. You should know by now that government, any government, can not run a business or a service satisfactorly and yet you want everything from goverment without paying the price. I am retired and still I must pay over 50% in income taxes not to mention the provincial and federal sales taxes(nodte the plural). On top of that we have surcharges on almost every energy related purchase or user fees. All told. we are probably in the 70% totl taxes bracket.
I also find it weird that many feel captalism related only to big business....How about your Moviestars, tv celebrities , sport celebrities. they make more than maany of the captalists. Wake up and smell the roses...
Bob
· 1 year ago
Nice clips, edited and doctored to spin it in one point of view. It amazes me how ignorant people can be, to listen so closely to what others tell them, and they don't bother to fact check for themselves. Every fox basher I've seen doesn't even watch fox news, most likely because they're too afraid to prove themselves wrong after living in a world of liberal spin. Just ask Michael Moore. Believe his "documentaries?" People tend to believe everything they see on t.v. and the movies, especially when others tell them what they want to hear. Adolf Hitler knew this all to well. Long live fair and balanced. Long live fox news.
Alison
· 1 year ago
Ewe, that's gross. And hey BOB, I'm not afraid to watch FOX news because I'm "too afraid to prove [myself] wrong after living in a world of liberal spin." HAHA, I choose not to watch FOX news because out of all of the major news stations FOX is the MOST biased - and obviously so.
Keep tuning into FOX, you're free to watch whatever you want. But, the thing that gets me is that people are too stupid/lazy to do their own fact checking and buy into everything the media tells them.
Maybe instead of trying to support a crooked news corporation on a web forum, try picking up a book once in a while. Not everything has to be so black or white, right or left - it is possible to find a middle ground. But that's only possible for people with atleast a half-brain, and Bob, I'm not so sure you fit into that category.
Ben
· 1 year ago
Some heated discussion here, eh? Despite what others have said, I have to assert that Fox news is not what one would call a nuanced, measured, and thoughtful analysis of national and world events. I'm a registered Independent, and I check in with Fox on occasion, but I can't say I'm ever very impressed. I'm no liberal, but compared to say, the BBC, wouldn't you agree that Fox is much more inflammatory and crude? These days I feel like I have to find my news overseas to get an objective viewpoint of our own nation's politics and the war in Iraq. I would agree that the videos on this site are spun, but I generally agree with their premise that Fox is not worth watching for a real examination of the issues. It's good for some laughs, I guess.
I don't mean to offend previous commenters, but in a truly respectful way, I would suggest checking out the BBC. Nothings perfect, but I stand by it as an example of a large news organization with a sincere ethic for balanced journalism. Here's a link:
Was it necessary for Fox News to have Hooters girls deliver buffalo wings during the weather report? They can deny what they're doing til they're blue in the face, but it doesn't change the facts. The embarrassing thing is that i subscribe to Sky Angel, a Christian satellite network, and Fox News is the only news carried. None of the other channels carried would show the things (including ads) that Fox News does.
Kim K.
· 1 year ago
Yeah, O'Reilly, your dirty little 'news' channel promotes the 'freefall' you CLAIM this nation is in. FOX NEWS SMUT. Yep, that's what Faux News is!!
Kim K.
· 1 year ago
Oh, goodie, Jamn. You love Bill-O and his perverted smutmongering news channel. Why don't you listen to REAL news..NPR or the BBC News Service.
liberalsux
· 1 year ago
I thought you liberals got off on this?! Fox is trying to cater to you and get you off that Communist News Network.
rev Owen
· 1 year ago
I know Billy is a racist and hate black folks for many years.But in recent times he has shown to right wing soap box for for all his salty red necks that hate the thought that a black man could run and even win the President of the USA. I trust that God will deal with you all accordingly.I think Fox should get some new faces. Peace Love Justice Rev Owen , Brooklyn NY
Kim K.
· 1 year ago
How dare you Republinuts say that 'liberals' all LIKE this smut! Your party is SUPPOSED to be the 'Family Values' party, yet you have in YOUR perverted hornet's nest people like Larry Craig and the SUPPOSEDLY 'reformed' Reverend Ted Haggard. Who's the real bunch of snakes and liars here?
danny bondaduce
· 1 year ago
hi diz be danny bonaduce. me and bill used to hit da pipe and cruise fo da trannies. bill likd da blak tranniez wit da big ol blak johnsonz. bill iz a total freakazoid wit da tranniez. you go bill wit yo trannie luvin self.
p.s youz owe me a rock-- i boughtz dat last dub biooootch.
Kim K.
· 1 year ago
Fox 'News' is a JOKE. Come on, admit it, all those right-wing neo-cons, they just LOVE Faux News because you're too thick-headed to hear THE TRUTH that the other, non-biased news channels tell. You want to PRETEND that everything is hunky-dory in Iraq, that everyone here in the USA is well off, and that there are no problems with health care here..TAKE OFF THE BLINDERS.
Steve
· 1 year ago
Yea, ok.
Here we go again, dumb liberals. So its wrong if fox shows some racy images, buuuuuutttt......
its quite ok for liberals to have rampant sex, cheer peta commercials that promote underage sex, allow unconditional abortions, and are up in arms every time the FCC trys to bleep out "crap"
GIVE ME A BREAK YOU STUPID LIBERAL HIPPIES!
BBR
· 1 year ago
NO you dumb Fuck aka steve, its simply showing the hypocrisy of fox saying dont show this image dont show sex, america is going downhill because of networks showing that type of image than showing it themselves think you fucking dumb ass, think before you talk.
Matt Judkin
· 1 year ago
Obama will lose!!!
He is a liberals liberal!!
Obama has received "100" ratings from Americans for Democratic Action, Planned Parenthood, the AFL-CIO, the American Federation of Government Workers, Citizens for Tax Justice (i.e., for raising taxes on the "rich"), Americans United for the Separation of Church and State, the National Education Association, and the National Organization for Women. He has received "F" grades from the National Taxpayers Union, the National Rifle Association, and U.S. English, a 13 rating from Citizens Against Government Waste, 7 ratings from the Club for Growth, the American Conservative Union, and the Eagle Forum, and zero ratings from the Family Research Council, the National Right to Life Committee, and Americans for Tax Reform.
When will the Democrats wake up and stop sending socialist liberals to their execution, like Obama!! not to mention Gore, Kerry,McGovern,Dukakis,etc,etc..
Clinton made it because of Perot.
McCain will be the President in the end.
XTV
· 1 year ago
"The North Europeans, alas --they never could combine sex with spirit." D.H. LAWRENCE lETTERS 1920
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The News Corp. report said cable network programming posted operating income of $289 million, an increase of $40 million from the year-ago quarter. The 16% growth reflects increased contributions from Fox News Channel, the regional sports networks and the Fox international channels; however, that growth was partially offset by launch costs associated with the Fox Business Network and the Big Ten Network as well as a lower contribution from FX.
The Fox News Channel more than doubled its operating income compared with the first quarter a year ago, primarily from increased affiliate revenues on higher rates and advertising revenue growth from higher volume and pricing.
And just comming back from a conference--your site was the butt of jokes and reticule--all you are doing is increasing business! Keep up the good work BNF!!!
They distort.....we reply
Heh, just to spite you, I'm going to go watch porn now.
As a long-time supporter, I've been really disappointed lately.
on TV. Take action and boycott FOX and its advertisers! Take action and email your Congressional Representatives, join Democrats.com,
Join VoteVets.org, etc. Whatever you do, make it an action with some power behind it! Whining about FOX and other Neo-Conservatives criminal behaviors does little, your emails and votes have an impact!! - Genuinely, Dale Leisenring
Fox News spews out garbage everyday and accuses other better news agencies of doing the same.
Fox News stinks.
they want THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE BACK!!!
There's a reason it's called the LEFT WING, you guys aren't RIGHT.
Yes, we see it on Fox News -- duh.
Don't forget that O'Reilly's viewers are subsidizing The Daily Show and The Colbert Report, too! Please stick with fighting Fox the old-fashioned way: by showing again and again that they're a pack of lying neo-fascists douchebags.
The second seemingly having nothing to do with “a la carte” cable is Fox being hypocritical when discussing the “moral decline” while showing “scandalous” images and clips and also being partly responsible for that decline. I mean come on what do we expect from Fox? The only thing that makes sense is to continue to show people how biased and hypocritical they really are and attempt to force Fox into getting back to real journalism.
Fox is a danger to society.
by Me, Myself and I
1 minute ago
Thanks, Scott
And, hey...good luck getting a la carte cable!! Too darn funny. Who are you irrelevant goofballs?
Doesn't matter because, well...uh...YOU'RE IRRELEVANT. hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Thanks for the laffs.
We are a self government. In a self government we relie on news to make informed decisions about the future of the country. Can we do that if we are given half truths and lies? No we can't. not to mention the conflicts of interest (Ailes running a rudy campaign, getting paid by big oil and drug).
Bring back the fairness doctrine. The right-wing attack machien then fails. Not because they are silenced. But because they will have someone there to tell the listeners that these propogandsits for profit are flat out lying for profit.
There time is almost up. Thank you Robert for doign the tough work. I can name 20 "leftistS" silenced or fired due to the right. Who on the right has been fired or silenced? Why can we not reciprate? The gop may make the all the rules. But do they then have to abide by the rules they create? Greenwald is trying to hold them to their rules. If we stand by and do nothing we are slaves to fascism. One way street. Thank you for showing fox and rush, what they do si not ok
so what's it say on your resume?
or is it your full time paying job scouring the internet and gleaning video clips you allege supports your fringe ideology.
all that would be interesting here is...
who signs your check?
ROLMAO! and another Ehrenfeld trick:
I hate Fox Noise. I signed the petition.
by Grayson
23 minutes ago
There's Fox News, for fair.
For balance there's the hate-America hate-Bush hate-the-military totally left-biased mainstream media, MSNBC and CNN, Bill Maher, Rosie O, David Letterman, Michael Moore, Sean Penn, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.
Seems fair enough to me. Vote with your remote and $$$.
psssssssssstttt.........who's got the ratings, huh???
Read it and weep!
FLY THE FLAG! SHOW YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE TROOPS!
I hope Hillary becomes President. It will be good for the terrorist. She will talk to them and reason with them. Maybe they will go away
Be careful what you ask for.........you may just get it.
My concern is that unbundling will not save us money, and may not get rid of Fox News, but may drive out niche channels I do happen to like, such as the Independent Film Channel (IFC) and Sundance. Channels that cater primarily to women or gays such as Oxygen and Logo may also not survive in an a la carte cable world.
If we support a la carte to attack Fox News may be cutting off our nose to spite our face.
Option B: write your cable company and complain about Fox News. Ask them to pull it from the basic service.
Yeah, right. I wrote two weeks ago to complain that I didn't get Fox Business Network. Today I got a reply that it will be added to my basic cable on 12/1. Should FOX ever be pulled from cable I will switch to satellite. Fuck you and your so-called free speech 'fairness act' progressives.
"Fox is why I don't have cable in my house!"
Do you spend alot of time on the internet??
"I hate being forced to pay for something I don't watch."
Who is "forcing" you. Get rid of cable. No one is forcing anyone to do anything. You control what goes on in your house not the cable company. These people blame the cable company for Fox. The balme PS2 because their kids are bad. They blame government because they can't pay the mortgage. They blame McDonalds because their kids are fat. They blame cigarette companies because they got cancer. They blame Budweiser because they are an alcoholic. Do any of these people take ANY reponsibility for their actions?? Is it always someone elses fault for your shortcomings?? Lets take "In God We Trust" off the coin because someone got offended. Take the American flag down because "someone" doesn't like it. Don't say "Merry Christmas" because the person may get insulted. Is this what we have become? If you don't like Fox don't watch it. If you don't like Christmas ...well.........to bad. Get over it Get a life
fox Noise is on but only to be able to verify the crap that they spew out into the air which is now even more polluted. I can't believe that these idiots go home at night and sit down with family or friends and are actually the same people that you see on tv. This is all just a joke. Right? These people are paid to be this stupid on tv ane thats it, right? When you see them on the street over the weekend they are normal.???? NNNaahhhhh. Fox is full of jerks and thats that.
Will shove the freakin war machine of imperialism down our throats yet I among many exspouse to restore the Constituition of checks and balances to what it was and get out of the business of nation building and take care of the citzens here and not the entire rest of the world or UN which is a digrace like the oil for food scandal as is our monetary policies or the Federal Reserve, it just keeps printing money out of thin air, and will cause China and India to own this county, like every other asset to where it leads us towards a second or God for bid, third world status.
People" Smell the Coffee and wake the hell up"
Thanks.
fox Noise is on but only to be able to verify the crap that they spew out into the air which is now even more polluted. I can't believe that these idiots go home at night and sit down with family or friends and are actually the same people that you see on tv. This is all just a joke. Right? These people are paid to be this stupid on tv ane thats it, right? When you see them on the street over the weekend they are normal.???? NNNaahhhhh. Fox is full of jerks and thats that.
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Real funny. It would be funny. It would be a joke if my brothers and sisters weren't dying everyday. If ALL our resources weren't being sucked dry. Where is this money going? All these trillions? It went from a surplus of the nation, to all that money going to republcain gop contracts. If this is a gmae, I'm not laughing.
And to the gop bobbleheads that come here to lie spin and propogate like their avatars; get a life. Your masters are done. Conflict of interest. They are not news. What will you do without your avatars? You will have to think for yourselves. I know tha tis a scary concept dittoheads. But it's for your beneifit. If you like lies fascists and propogaters that's your business. But you should get a shrink if that's the case. really. You are funny to me. Us "liberals" do not fear you anymore. Now that our voice can get out. You silenced it for a few years and got us scared. CAn we recipracate, gop? Yes we can. Stop crying and whining. Your avatars have been silencing the left for years now. Ward churchhill, the dixie chicks, rosie, tome hanks, danny glover, sean penn, tim robbins teachers judges and on on on on. Why can we not recipracate? The gop has been silencing the left ofr years. If you don't want to play those rules I have a suggestion. STOP ATTACKING AND SILENCING LIBERALS. I doubt the right will stop their attack on america. So I will not stop my attack on them. Don't start what you can't finish, gop
Fox News still gets paid over 75 cents per cable subscriber. With a la carte, you wouldn't have to pay that if you don't want to.
Raziorizzo: "What about those who don't want to watch CNN ,MSNBC , CNBC or do you just want people to cut only Fox News out."
A la carte means you can CHOOSE WHAT YOU WANT.
Raziorizzo: "If people don't want to watch Fox News don't turn the channel to it ,block it on the cable box or shut you tv off."
But if you have cable, you're still paying over 75 cents to Fox News for something you don't watch. You shouldn't have to pay that if you don't want the channel.
Media Guy: "And just comming back from a conference--your site was the butt of jokes and reticule"
Nice English there! "RETICULE" LOL. No way you make a good living in any media-related industry!
Anonymous: "Heh, just to spite you, I'm going to go watch porn now."
Porn is fine -- having to either pay Fox to produce "news" with soft porn, or else live with not having cable at all, is not fine.
mikeT: "With few exceptions, no one is 'forced' to pay for Fox News. Your cable bill is not like 'death and taxes' - you don't have to subscribe. It might be a burdensome choice in many areas, but you do not have to subscribe to cable TV."
Is that acceptable consumer choice in a free market? Either pay to fund the Fox Crap Empire and get 100 channels, or don't pay for Fox Crap and be forced to have 8?
mrjohnson: "Anyone see the hypocrisy here? Has Pat Robertson infiltrated BNF and started calling the shots. Since when are liberals and Democrats the arbiters of decency??? Who cares if Fox shows suggestive images? Like Raziorizzo says: change the channel."
No hypocrisy -- no one's saying make Fox News illegal -- we just don't want the crappy choice of either having to pay for Fox to make the sh*t, or give up cable altogether. As consumer choice, it's a joke.
Dale Leisenring: "Take action and boycott FOX and its advertisers!"
Even if you don't watch Fox and don't buy anything advertised on Fox, you're still paying them as part of your cable bill!
Blue Collar Goddess: "How very Liberal of you! I know, let's start burning books too!"
I don't wanna burn books, I just don't wanna PAY FOR BOOKS THAT I DON'T WANNA READ. I don't wanna PAY FOR FOX NEWS, OR ELSE GIVE UP CABLE COMPLETELY. As consumer choice, that's a joke.
Christian Hertzog: "Censorship is censorship, and that's what you're asking us to do. Freedom of speech means we have to put up with Fox News."
No, that's wrong. Censorship is deciding what other people can see. This is deciding what I PAY FOR, even if I'll never want to watch it. I'm paying the paycheck of the guy who thinks it's a great idea to put t1ts in all the stories. You're paying his paycheck. We don't want what he's spewing. They're DEFEATING market forces to get Fox more money.
cj: "the lefty loonies do not believe in freedom of speech. The loons want to ban anyone who doesn't agree with them."
Do you actually think that's an argument? IS ANYONE SAYING YOU CAN'T WATCH FOX? These are the arguments the right comes up with. Know what? YOU'RE NOT SMART.
Kevin: "if you don't like what FOX is doing, DON'T WATCH!!! Turn the damn channel."
That doesn't work. Even if you never watch it, you're still paying them, unless you get rid of cable completely.
anna: "hate-the-military totally left-biased mainstream media"
We want to save the troops' lives, you want them to stay and get killed. End of story.
Anonymous: "VETERANS DAY IS THIS SUNDAY, NOV 11 FLY THE FLAG! SHOW YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE TROOPS!"
Amen.
Raziorizzo: "I hope Hillary becomes President. It will be good for the terrorist. She will talk to them and reason with them."
You're an idiot.
Raziorizzo: "'I hate being forced to pay for something I don't watch.'
Who is 'forcing' you. Get rid of cable. No one is forcing anyone to do anything. You control what goes on in your house not the cable company."
That's consumer choice and the free market? Either fund something you hate, or get 8 channels instead of 200? That's no choice. It IS the same for you and MSNBC. You should be able to do the same thing.
Raziorizzo: "Take the American flag down because 'someone' doesn't like it. Don't say 'Merry Christmas' because the person may get insulted."
Who the hell wants to force those things? It's almost no one, but the right blows it up like that's what all progressives want, and we're evilly gonna destroy Christmas and the American flag. It's a joke.
here's my problem. i'm sick of having queers shoved in my face on EVERY tv station. It's a blatant attempt by the media to brainwash me into accepting homosexuality as "the norm". bet it works for you, huh? get turned on when you see two girls kissing (YUK!!!!)
thinking about kissing one of your guy friends? hope you get your lights punched out.
so, where's the petition I can sign block the queers, huh? to hell with Will & Grace, Bravo and their Queer Eye and HGTV!!!
and what about those sexy sluts on MTV, huh??? sex sells music? to whore-moan-al little boys like you. where's the petiton, bud?
Seconded heartily.
Having a television is far from a necessity.
Those infidels at Fox lie about me all the time. Thank you allah for Brave New Films!"
"Adolf Hitler signed 2 minutes ago
Get them off the airwaves, no more free speech for you!"
BTW this is something of a red herring concerning a la carte, which I would like to see. But as the megacorporations that control the content on 98% of the TV have an agenda to make money at any cost to society overall, there's little chance this will change. It will be interesting to see how they take control of the internet as a means of content distribution. THAT's what net neutrality is really about, btw.
Who wouldn't want to associate their product with an orgasm?
oh--I am so sorry for the spelling error!!
Ridicule!
Your (BNF and this site) still a joke any way you misspell it!
and who ever is posting under my name--grow up a bit--but what can you expect on this website??
To be pushing A la carte cable as a means to end Fox News is dopey. I'm sorry. I said it. If people watch it as part of their cable, and they buy a chinese menu style package from the cable company, don't you think that the red-tards are gonna pick the Fox box in the news column? Don't you think the horn dogs are gonna take the news with the most skin (never mind the sadness of people watching news for rocks offing).
A La Carte Cable is probably the end of a lot of things we like. Like BET. And E!. And Fox Sports (well, they're not better than the so-called Worldwide leader, but they're not really worse, either). And CSPAN2. And public access (if you haven't spent a Friday Night watching public access until 2 AM, you have no idea what I'm talking about... it's a great friday night in a big city like LA or New York). A La Carte sections the market and gives us less commonality to talk about.
Last thing. I dunno who these economists who suggest ALC pricing will lower prices are. When I did my MBA, our brilliant Managerial Economics professor (Martin Cripps, Bach, Master, PhD, econ, London School) suggested that you get people to buy stuff they aren't going to buy for a lower total price by bundling. When you break out the pieces, prices go up. Hell, when you get that catalog for the sausage company this winter, you can see A La Carte pricing versus bundles. Now, you might save by getting fewer channels. But, if you watch ESPN, be aware that it's the most expensive channel for a cable operator to carry, so it's going to be very expensive for you to carry. With a rightly unregulated pricing scheme, the stuff that's in demand will be priced appropriately, and, while you won't get Fox News because you're all right thinking people, you might get stuck with the same bill and fewer channels.
The only real option for a real American is what Real Americans have been doing all along. Steal cable and don't watch Fox News. It's the American way, along with not voting.
I want my MTV--talk about garbage on cable!
And you complain about Fox???
Hypocrites!
Good post!
BTW The post by Hollywood is correct--you go al la carte-say good bye to the smaller market channels like Nat Geo or HGTV, science channel they would be gone.
Your most expensive channel is not fox- it is ESPN and ESPN2 then come the regional sports networks like YES and others---like it or not, this is a crazy idea with lots of collateral damage---and people that watch fox will still keep it--now about 2 million viewers daily (people that watch more than 15 minute segments a day)
This is a stupid, wrongheaded campaign. It will only come back to bite you.
Also, why is it that you are unable to solicit new channels of content without demanding that old channels be abolished? Is it that you are afraid that you couldn't compete in an open market? To be sure - CNN and MSNBC are as far left as Fox is to the right. By my count that's 2-to-1. And I saw that exact same Paris Hilton commercial on both of those channels! So what's your complaint exactly?
Admit it - you hate free speech because it means that people are allowed to offer thoughts and opinions that disagree with your own. Free speech is about ALL points of view, not just your own. For instance, I think you are an ass hat, but I still support your right to write whatever you choose. I *do not* support your opinions though. But I can do that, because I believe in truly free speech!
Great plan, morons.
Something I would rather have happen. It seems as if everyone else and their brother is milking the war as much as possible.
Also, some of the clips came from paid programming advertisements. Just with that, all the credibility went down the drain.
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Free thinker is right on--you wish to supress speach on the right, not the left--freedom of peach in the 1st person only.
There is a word for you Cliff--HYPOCRITE!
You people should never scream free speech again. You are such losers, seriously.
As for the a la carte idea to lower cable fees, I am against it.
We all watch cable channels that cater to a small segment of the population-Golf channel-Court TV-C-Span. I do not want the trolls on this site to lose their favorite channel even if it is Faux.
I just block it on my TV on my end and laugh at the people who think it is a News channel.
Secondly, FOX attempts to attract audiences through titillation by using footage of scantily clad females who have NOTHING to do with the story!
Enough said.
Free thinker is right on--you wish to supress speach on the right, not the left--freedom of peach in the 1st person only.
There is a word for you Cliff--HYPOCRITE!
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So.. let's get this straight.
FOX can show tits and ass, yet moralize against showing tits and ass. "Here! look at this DISGUSTING PORN!! Aren't her huge, round tits just ABHORRENT?" This is basically what Fox is doing.
You want to call Cliff a hypocrite? Fox is the biggest one of all. Is that what Republicans do..? Do they take out the most vivid porn, and watch it all the way through, but all the time moralizing against it? "Oh, look at the size of that! As Jeeeezus is my witness, he should be nailed to the cross for that.. oh my lord, look at what he's doing with it now! How can she do that? This is immoral!"
And all this, while Right-Wing Christian groups want to BAN THE SALE OF PLAYBOY TO OUR TROOPS IN IRAQ. So it's cool that they get shot, but they cannot relax from the shell shock with some T&A;?
So, before calling Cliff a Hypocrite, look in the goddamn mirror, people.
BY THE WAY - for all your Fox News Righties out there. The moment that Democrats get elected, and the ratings are HIGHER for pro-Democrat and anti-republican slanted news.... Fox WILL shift to bashing Republicans. You will see stories about how messed in the head Bush Jr. was. Mark these words, Fox lovers.
Now this is on radio so I can't comment about all the brew ha-ha on T&A; but it seems to me there are 100's of other channels to tune into. If T&A; is a problem, you should be railing against MTV and VH1.
As for Fox vs. whomever, I saw the same garbage on Paris Hilton the other day on MSNBC, which just, to be blunt, is tilted as far left as Fox is to the right.
That does not seem to bother Cliff or the other BNF writers.
To follow Cliff's convoluted logic, we should just have 1 station that this site and media matters agree with---To go ‘a la carte’ would most likely kill smaller franchises, and paradoxically would hurt MNSNBC even more because its ratings suck.
Sex sells--gee what a shock! I had no idea!!
This is a thinly veiled, transparent attempt to censor a cable channel you don’t like.
Freedom of speech cuts both ways Cliffy boy-and yes, you ARE a hypocrite.
Get a life--better yet, get a remote and turn the freeking channel and quit bitching over a cable news channel 'you watch so other don't'.
i could swear every single point made here by posters who seem to hate this article are the same exact arguments i hear on fox?
I mean down to the rhetoric and name calling..
It's sad to see the blind hatred and parroting of fox lineup's one liners, do you people actually ever stop to think about what is being told to you?
Seriously.. maybe it is true, maybe it isn't.. is it worth it to you to search for opposing opinions that run counter to Fox news just to see if Fox is telling the truth or not?
There are a lot of independent WORLD news organizations.. look around, see for yourself.. it's possible Fox isn't as fair as you might think.. but don't take my word for it find out for yourself... what's to lose?
Look for facts that can be verified, not a talking memo/point/one liner.. please, for the sake of the country.
Did you bother to READ my post I noted I also watched MSNBC--??!!
as I noted they are as left as Fox is right
Clinton campaign spokesman Mo Elliethee admitted that the campaign had planted the question and said it would not happen again.
Faux has no liberals with their own show. Other news channels hard news or business shows are just that and not a platform for right-wing nut jobs like on Faux. If you cannot tell the difference you are not paying attention, or you are a moron.
Repugs-No ideas, nothing but fear!!!!!
What do you call Allen Colmes? I believe he is a liberal--
As for MSNBC:
Tucker Carlson show has been DROPPED on PMSNBC
so much for balance
pay attention yourself, Moron! or are you suffereing from PTSS watching too much of Olbermann?
BTW
P2+ Prime Time
FNC – 1,821,000 viewers
CNN – 837,000 viewers
MSNBC- 501,000 viewers
CNBC –334,000 viewers
HLN – 439,000 viewers
Nice to see this site at its best
I agree with you Raziorizzo
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I believe MSNBC is the best network to watch for the correct news.
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about 2 hours ago
He does not have his own show? Boy, you are a bigger moron than even I thought.
The liberal media has right-wing nut Glenn Beck, Morning Joe, and Tucker.
When Colmes gets his own show then you might have a point.
You win!! You are the biggest moron.
Repugs-No new ideas--Nothing but Fear!!!
Faux News 1,821,000
You have one brand to choose from and I have four. Thanks for showing Faux loses.
Repugs-No new ideas-- Nothing but Fear!!!
My apologies.
Are you suffering from PTSS or PMS???
the rest of the cable spectrum is liberal!!!
finally--the TRUTH emerges from whomever!
Thanks Media Guy-Liberal Cable 2,006,000
Faux News 1,821,000
You have one brand to choose from and I have four. Thanks for showing Faux loses.
Fact is, that while they are biased, and in O'Reilly's case, lousy human beings, of the images shown, only about 30% were actually explicit. You see worse on MTV, why is it such a big deal when Fox does it? I hate Fox as much as any self-respecting human with an IQ that reaches double figures, but this is a cheap shot, a poorly constructed and badly thought through criticism.
They are right-wing loons.
What a joke--why even have a blog for debate if you do not wish to hear/see the other side--typical liberal rules!
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If you have not seen this segment from the 11/10 Fox NFL Sunday program you should watch.
http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-us&brand...
Jimmie Kimmel with Pacman Jones (suspended from the NFL for numerous law and league violations) on the phone from a set made to look like a strip club with two scantily clad babes, raining US currency, and Jones announcing this Sunday's picks . Fox, the self-appointed guardian of decency, family values and lookout for the war on Christmas. Frankly, I could not believe my eyes. You have to wander what Howie, Bradshaw and the rest really thought about the segment. But one has to remember who owns that network. Culture Wars - what a laugh!
It sounds to me like media matters has changed your marching orders from idea expression to censorship--shame on you
Or Bare and Phallused?
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Pamela, let's be clear about what BNF is "asking" (I prefer the term "inviting") you to do.
The post on this page, by cliffshecter, doesn't tell, ask, or even invite action of any sort. You can only be refering to the link to a petition asking the FCC to require cable providers to unbundle their channels; which would allow you to not pay for the ones you disapprove of. (doesn't apply to me- I don't have an idiot box)
If you would view not paying for those channels as censorship of some sort, that's your call. But unbundling would follow the Free Market Ethic, to not pay good money for something you don't like.
What Faux's gratuitous sex is all about is keeping their viewership. It's in the book: to keep your "programmees" from using actual brain cells while watching, you continually appeal to their very basest levels of response (Jaron, this is for you too).
It's all very scientific, thanks to Joseph Goebels and fifty years of Madison Avenue. I know people who watch Faux just for this sort of stuff, and then stay for the propaganda. In Faux's case, it's also a fight for life, because their advertizers will bail if people quit watching.
Which is why you are being invited (by me) to go sign the petition.
you are all insane. anyone who likes fox is more than likely a christian, catholic, claims to have "values", has to control what goes on in everyone else's bedroom and make everyone feel guilty while you are probably the one indulging your sick perverted mind under the guise of "fox news."
you are all the sick old white men that love to watch fox news anyway, i can see why you want it to continue!
FUCKIN PERVERTS. our children are being exposed to this.
Faux and the neocons or foxattacks.
If ya don't like Fox News, and the " So Called Porn "..then go watch Cops, or CSI, or MTV...Listen to the Violent Rap Music, or See People with there Head Blown apart, or a Cop, beating a Person for trying to Resist the type of arest that was being made on them..To Me thats all Very Offensive !!!..But im not going to scream about how this is Wrong to show..some things to me are wrong, some not..I CHOOSE THAT. !
if I don't like it, I don't watch it..I don't need to see it to know it's there...I have children in this home, and I Refuse to have Rap music in this house, as well as Violent TV viewed by the kids..and I Teach them Values, and right from wrong. All I can hope for, is they retain those values as they grow up..because when there on there Own...then there on there Own..the make there own choices, Like to CHANGE THE CHANNEL if they don't like whats on..its not up to me to decide for them at that age, the same as it's not up to you, or anyone to decide what I watch, or Don't watch, Were all adults, and it's to late to have someone teach us the Values we should already have by now...so my point here is..
I Will Decide, and no one has the right to decide for me, Like the seat belt Law..I Don't wear mine, it's my choice, and my right to decide if I will wear it..and I choose Not to.
So If I watch FOX, or Wear my seat Belt, or Listen to Rap, Watch the Playboy channel, or watch Real porn..My Choice, My Life.
and FOx has the Full American Freedom to show what they want, and how they want..and you have the Right to NOT WATCH IT!..don't interfere with my Rights, and what I do in My home.
There is a Porn shop here in the town I live in, and there is of course a road passing this shop, I don't try to have the road removed !!..I just don't go in the store, if I want to protest it.
and Like WalMart..I refuse to shop there..there are plenty of home town small buisness places here to get what I need.
If ya Don't like a Dodge, buy a Chevy, or Ford..
Don't try to Put Dodge out of Buisness because ya don't like what they make.
they are only one of your choices in life..Feel Lucky you have a Choice.
so have a Decent Life, Its up to you, and only you.
You Have Plenty of Channels to Choose from.
find one ya Like, and leave the other people alone with there choices, because I REALY DON"T CARE What you watch,thats your choice, and you will not stop me from watching what I want..It's My Choice
so have a Decent Life, Its up to you, and only you.
Rick
I fully support embarassing Fox by spreading that video, though. At least then the goal can be to get them to stop condemning "liberals" for supposed "depravity".
withhold advertising because of sex violates my principles, specificity that sex should be open and public, that it is a natural part of existence; our primary reason for existence (I don't believe
in any religious cloud people reasons for existence), and that there is not enough gratuitous sex on television. As such, I can not ask
them to withhold add dollars for that reason, especially when there ARE real reasons to withhold said add dollars, such as the FACT that
they do not report news, rather opinions, often with no factual evidence to back it, no fact finding, no investigation at all.
In the back room, limo, public restrooms and anywhere the media can't find them.
The republicans are finally showing americans their true colors.
If I were to start complaining about what I have to pay for with my cable service, it would be all those stupid sports channels! AND Faux News - but because of their hypocrisy and hate-filled right-wing slant, not their use of gratuitous sexy images.
If you had come at it simply from the point that they were being hypocritical, I would be all for this.
Issue #1, Does Fox news portray itself in the same manner it describes itself?
Issue #2, Is soft core porn (or suggestions of such) acceptable for prime time television (my guess is if this were deemed unacceptable much of what is already aired would find itself off the 'idiot box')?
Issue #3, Does an anti-porn opinion make one a conservative or feminist? Or, to put the question another way, do you have to be pro-porn if you are a liberal?
These seem to be the issues with many of the commentators on this site. Americans love to give there opinion about issues and most of them conform to those already expressed because our 'culture' is what is referred to as 'mass culture', which in essence, confirms that even if we disagree the reasons cited are common vernacular.
I would challenge all of you to sit down and think about your opinions. First, are we all not hypocrites? Second, are we more than hormones and sex - and if not, what the hell are we doing living in organized, highly complex, societies? Finally, is this fear of censorship really the issue - are there other areas of media censorship that we are ignoring (I can't remember the last time a communist or anarchist received respectable airtime). We certainly don't air the number of international channels (or anywhere close) to the amount available. And please don't allow your brain to respond with the programmed, 'well noone would watch them anyway' response.The point is not whether someone would watch it, according to your argument, but whether if it is an option, then it ought to be available, even if no one would buy it.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2007/1...
CNN is going with sex, too. They show naked Paris Hilton, painted in gold, and had to have shown her at least a dozen times AND they showed a clip of her tape (i think). They were on the subject so WHY NOT also bring up Pam Anderson for a few breast shots and the beginning of her sex tape.
Not only that, but the CNN host was like..."Great point, but we're running out of time and I have to get to this next add..."
I also find it weird that many feel captalism related only to big business....How about your Moviestars, tv celebrities , sport celebrities. they make more than maany of the captalists. Wake up and smell the roses...
Keep tuning into FOX, you're free to watch whatever you want. But, the thing that gets me is that people are too stupid/lazy to do their own fact checking and buy into everything the media tells them.
Maybe instead of trying to support a crooked news corporation on a web forum, try picking up a book once in a while. Not everything has to be so black or white, right or left - it is possible to find a middle ground. But that's only possible for people with atleast a half-brain, and Bob, I'm not so sure you fit into that category.
I don't mean to offend previous commenters, but in a truly respectful way, I would suggest checking out the BBC. Nothings perfect, but I stand by it as an example of a large news organization with a sincere ethic for balanced journalism.
Here's a link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/
Thanks,
-Ben
FOX NEWS SMUT. Yep, that's what Faux News is!!
I trust that God will deal with you all accordingly.I think Fox should get some new faces.
Peace Love Justice
Rev Owen , Brooklyn NY
p.s youz owe me a rock-- i boughtz dat last dub biooootch.
Here we go again, dumb liberals. So its wrong if fox shows some racy images,
buuuuuutttt......
its quite ok for liberals to have rampant sex, cheer peta commercials that promote underage sex, allow unconditional abortions, and are up in arms every time the FCC trys to bleep out "crap"
GIVE ME A BREAK YOU STUPID LIBERAL HIPPIES!
than showing it themselves
think you fucking dumb ass, think before you talk.
He is a liberals liberal!!
Obama has received "100" ratings from Americans for Democratic Action, Planned Parenthood, the AFL-CIO, the American Federation of Government Workers, Citizens for Tax Justice (i.e., for raising taxes on the "rich"), Americans United for the Separation of Church and State, the National Education Association, and the National Organization for Women. He has received "F" grades from the National Taxpayers Union, the National Rifle Association, and U.S. English, a 13 rating from Citizens Against Government Waste, 7 ratings from the Club for Growth, the American Conservative Union, and the Eagle Forum, and zero ratings from the Family Research Council, the National Right to Life Committee, and Americans for Tax Reform.
When will the Democrats wake up and stop sending socialist liberals to their execution, like Obama!! not to mention Gore, Kerry,McGovern,Dukakis,etc,etc..
Clinton made it because of Perot.
McCain will be the President in the end.
--they never could combine
sex with spirit."
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