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GO FOX!!!
That is the best u can come up with? Why is it that the asian community doesnt have the problems that the black community has? Because they dont blame everyone for there problems, they preach personal responsibility, and they dont have so called "leaders" out in there communities telling them them to blame the white man for all their problems and blame everything on racism. The asian community doesnt depend on others or blame others. Sorry there is very little personal responsibilityin the black comminity. Just ask Larry Elder and Bill Cosby. But I guess there considered uncle toms like Condi Rice and General Powell. Preach hard work, personal responsibility, and that the only thing holding yourself back is yourself - but then again if u do teach these life rules you would have less "victims"
Let us, as people, begin to love each other. Disregard the fact that you are white and he is black. We are all God's creation. How could you call yourself the seed of Christ when there is so much hatred in your heart? People will be people, "men are egotistically jerks, women are materialistical b@#$%@#" I've heard 'em all. What about September 11 or Hurricane Katrina? Let's discuss the things that we can change... :)
Samantha said:"
Samantha got it right y'all!
"Let us, as people, begin to love each other. "
Keep preachin girl! You know it!
Too many wanna be slaveowners! (Fox viewership)
Too many white boy racists! (drugged-up Russh, (Ins-)hannity, and the coldest blond horse-face ever= AnnColter)
Not enough Samanthas in the world....
furthermore
if he's as "liberal" as they say he is-
I'm voting for my man B-Rock Obama.
we've got to have peace
he knows
Samantha knows it
Obama in October, 2002:
"What I am opposed to the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shothier own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and hardships borne.
What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate a drop in the median income - to distract us from corporate scandals...
Those are the battles we need to fight. Those are the battles we will willingly join. The battles against ignorance and intolerance.
Corruption and greed.
Poverty and despair.
The consequences of war are dire, the sacrifices immeasurable. We may have occasion in our lifetime to once again rise up in defense of our freedom, and pay the wages of war.
But we ought not - we will not - travel down that hellish path blindly.
Nor should we allow those who would march off
and pay the ultimate sacrifice,
who would prove the full measure of devotion with their blood,
to make such an awful sacrifice in vain."
-PseudointelLexual
Face it: a huge double-standard exisits in this country between what white people are "allowed" to say and what blacks regularly say. Wanna solve the racial problems and tensions in this country? Then BOTH sides need to just shut up about it. Confront the blantant bigotry and hatred vigorously when encountered, but leave every other trivial issue alone.
I live in the middle of Wyoming and I see descrimination every day. Even if I am a white girl, I still have to deal with it all the time because of the fact that I'm pagan and bisexual. If you are not white, straight and a conservative christian, then you are no longer human and open game. I work with a gay kid who got expelled from school because some girl didn't like the fact that he was gay and caused a bunch of problems. Now he has to drive over half and hour to go to school and his adoptive family has kicked him out of the house before he's even graduated from high school. He's only a junior. I have friends that are native american, and they mostly dropped out of high school because of the teachers harassing them and treating them like they are not worth anything.
I can't stand any type of descrimination, least of all from a national company that is using to fatten their wallets. I have no respect for people like that. They should be using their influence to promote tolerance, not the other way around.
This is very funny reading these post of people saying I am black and this and that....
I have lived in the inner city and the burbs.....There really is no difference in terms of drugs like you fools mention. There are drugs and guns everywhere. It just so happens brown people may go out and sell the drugs in the street or corner or wherever and in the burbs those drugs are kept in the house for the neighborhood to come buy, so it is kept closed in a little more...........................................
As for the black community, you can't say the black community as a whole like you do. You are generalizing a entire group of people which you cannot do and fox does that. Fox has no truth and they are not a news organization. They just spew things from the far right, that is not news just opinion from one side.
Again, don't compare your plight to that of people that have come further than any other people on this earth in the US. I Don't remember you being brought here on slave ships chained up, your families split up or killed, your faith taken from you, your history beaten out of you, your language beaten out of you and not allowed to educate yourself in terms of the new system nor own anything and participate in society.
As for people in general, there are poor people of all ethnic backgrounds and people that are lazy and out of work in all backgrounds..........
Furthermore, every job that I have worked at since i have been in high school which is 12 years now, the hardest workers have been people that have brown skin, people not showing up and sitting around and doing nothing were white..........So lets stop with all the generalizations about peoples b/c of some people in your neighborhood or where you live.
Peace
bits and pieces makes it much more possible to be used out of context. Fox is great with great shows
and if Jesus didn't come to save Jews alone and Church that posts stuff like that is racist.
bits and pieces makes it much more possible to be used out of context. Fox is great with great shows
and if Jesus didn't come to save Jews alone and Church that posts stuff like that is racist.
bits and pieces makes it much more possible to be used out of context. Fox is great with great shows
and if Jesus didn't come to save Jews alone a Church that posts stuff like that is racist.
The same is happening over here in the UK. The headlines in the daily tabloids are growing more and more Nazi-like towards Muslims and asylum seekers and there is a relentless stream of barrel-scraping headlines scapegoating these two groups (recent example from the Daily Express: "MUSLIMS TRY TO TELL US HOW TO RUN OUR SCHOOLS" - I'm not joking).
It is no exaggeration to say that Muslims are receiving the same treatment from the British press that Jewish people were receiving in the 1930s. (Jonathan Freedland, journalist from the Guardian recently said that if the current onslaught over Muslims in the media were about Jews he would seriously consider leaving the country.)
The UK media is even treating the far-right white supremacist party the BNP (British National Party) as 'normal' these days - it was not the 'done thing' to mention them up until a couple years ago. But in the weeks leading up to the 2005 general election the media suddenly went into a frenzy in covering their election campaign and this resulted in them doing better than they had ever done before.
But again, the reason is because the establishment are trying to counter the threat from left-wing radicals who are by far the majority of political thinkers in this country. (The left's downfall of course is that they are not united in their strategies of how best to move forward.)
Just look at the demonstrations in the US and the UK over recent years - literally millions of people have been mobilised over issues of supporting immigrants and a woman's right to choose and opposing war and racism. Such displays of people power are very scary to the status quo, the main reason that these demonstrations are played down or outright ignored.
The powers-that-be would have you believe that people are 'split' on issues such as Iraq and the bogus 'war on terror' but that is not the case. The real divide here is between people and government - pro-war 'activists' are but a tiny minority.
People are more politicised today than perhaps ever before in recent history and politicians and the powerful elements that control the media are running scared.
Check out some facts about death row for instance:
http://www.nodeathpenalty.org/newab017/index.html
you really should get yourself more informed before you throw around statements like the one posted above - it's a dangerous mentality to start resenting people who are in fact powerless.
Fox (and the media in general) is helping the government to foster these attitudes in order to 'divide and rule' people and you shouldn't let them.
Knowledge is power - start organising, don't fall for the lies and the tricks.
If you're looking for tolitarian, look in the mirror. Or just turn on your local Fox News affiliate.
You have to be a moron in to days tech-no knowledgeable world to think hate speech is some how free speech and to be tolerant is to accept hatred. You can be tolerant and free WITHOUT hatred. I also agree that the MAJORITY are smart free thinking individuals that are working daily and are not as they are painted by "fox news."
Even though there are some good police officers, we live in a world where they have complete power sometimes and I have personally witnessed racism from such institutional systems that are basically build on pro racist thinking But as each year passes we are growing stronger and taking the power away from such systems to stop such hateful attacks as "anti-terror" pro Nazi "investigations" and I am happy people of ALL color are working together against such racist parties as the conservatives, BNP and republicans!
Thank you to the many people out there that know that this is wrong and do not accept such behavior that fox and its pro racist followers displays!
Mainstream news outlets have been falsely portraying a killer war into something of a victory. Where is the victory? Who really has won this war of terror? The facts are the facts. Rupert Murdock and his monopolies on media outlets have done a great job of silencing "the other side" and spreading its propaganda through your living room. The other mainstream media outlets are no better, directly following suit without question when Fox claimed Bush Jr. the new President of the United States in 2001.
It is our right as United States citizens to know the truth about our world and what our government has been up to. Question and fight against the corrupt media because if we do not, then we will be forced to digest another Bush into presidency. From what we have learned, the media and politics go hand in hand. Fight against the corruption!
Bottom line, more people will avoid black people all together, isolate them. Refuse to talk about them, with them, to them. It's a hazard to talk to, make mention, refer to in public about blacks.
They are like the islamo-fascists, one mention of the name Moehammad in a less than glorious way and they will issue a Fatwa on your head.
I used to a liberal who embraces blacks, latinos, etc. Skin color didn't matter to me, but since they keep making it an issue, it slowly becomes their own enemy, self-victimization. It's just so easy to blame others when you are lazy.
The truth is that unless you have the mind of a child you understand that FoxNews is the creation of Rupert Murdoch as way to get his message of hate and imperialism out. As an added bonus he gives his employees an opportunity to make LOTS of money. Does anyone know of a commentator on FoxNews that hasn't written a book. Fox invents situations they call NEWS then capitalizes on them through the sheep they pander to by selling them propaganda in the form of books.
As an agnostic I sometimes hope there is a God and hell. Then I'd LOVE to be there when the creator asks these FoxNews lovers to explain the deaths of the innocent Iraqis they endorsed, the suicides of gays they felt obligated to keep from their right to the pursuit of happiness and the others their hate has hurt. I'd LOVE to see the look on God's face as they spewed the talking points, "Well, we were fighting them over there so we wouldn't have to fight them here" or "The bible says gays shouldn't marry. YOU God, created something vile that WE had to stop!" Can't you just see God with his lip quivering spewing the bile that comes from Ann Coulter's pie hole? Hmmm maybe not.
Ailles was partially responsible for the death of the Fairness Doctrine, which opened the door for such nimrods as Rush Limbaugh to fill the airwaves.
Fox tells lies and lemmings who suck up TV news as fact run with it. I do not watch FOX news.
It is an abomination on society and the world.
Seriously, though, I think it's very illuminating to read the comments of the trolling Fox supporters here. They are full of the same kind of vitriol that Fox Attacks means to highlight--they are darn near doing your work for you. Very generous of them, really.
But incidentally, I'm still praying for them.
I forget this post will be deleted because my view is different. You will see.
http://www.grassfire.org/
http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electio...
A number of people above have made comments to the effect of, 'You liberals always claim you support freedom of speech, but now you are calling for a boycott.'
You see, the boycott is a time-honored expression of free speech, which allows one to exercise choice in consumership based on ones beliefs, be they political, ideological, or simply a matter of taste.
Calling for a boycott does not diminish any media outlet's freedom of speech, unless their message is so odious that viewers refuse to countenance it any longer, or advertisers become aware of viewer disdain.
A boycott is, in fact, rather a less frightening prospect for our cherished first amendment than is the less historical "media blackout" of which this administration has been so fond.
A news channel is supposed to REPORT news, not give extremely biased views, attack interviewees and outright lie. Fox News is broadcast on Sky digital 24 hrs a day over here, I don't actually know anyone who watches apart from when they're showing they're friends who haven't seen it before, just to show how fucked up it is. My brother was the first person to show me a clip of the O'Reilly factor on youtube, it was pretty recently in fact, I honestly thought it was a piss take, I couldn't believe that was an actual person let alone an apparently well educated, professional. He was interviewing some UFO searcher nut, and fair enough the guy was a nut, but Bill O'R was screaming at him. Thats ridiculous. Thats not a news show thats theatrics, its hollywood crap (the rest of the world finds this behaviour abnormal, no offence to Americans but you're a weird bunch.) Apart from the ignorance of the presenters, the actual blatant lies are just sickening.
I've been told that 51% of Americans watch Fox news. I have no idea how true this is. If it is even half true its a very scary statistic. I think that anyone who watches Fox News, and considers it a reliable source of information is a complete moron. Even Al Jazeera is less biased than Fox. And thats Al Jazeera, a news programme from a culture that shuns democracy.
I agree with everything you say about Fox News.
I refer you to this website discussing Fox's ratings:
http://www.newshounds.us/2005/05/18/fox_news_in...
Fox News' primetime ratings among 25 to 54 year olds amounts to less than 500,000 each night. That is roughly 1 in 700 Americans of those ages.
Here's another site detailing the way that ratings measures create the illusion of higher viewerships than actually exist:
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2005
Essentially, a viewer who tunes in and leaves the TV on gets counted several times; Fox apparently has more of these types of viewers, while other stations tend to have viewers who tune in for a little while and then switch off.
In April of 2003, during the height of its ratings, Fox News had a total of 86 million viewers who tuned in for at least six minutes on a given day. That was less than 25% of Americans.
To begin with, how many of these people have actually experienced being "African American"? Have they lived in black populated areas? I GUARANTEE YOU THAT MORE THAN HALF OF THESE WHITE NEWS CASTERS DONT HAVE BLACK FRIENDS; so, with that said, How in the world could they know about the struggles of African Americans?
To know that nearly 50 years ago the liberties that we now enjoy today were denied to our grandparents and/or our parents. And I know what many might be thinking, "Ohh that was old, racism is gone and......", THAT IS GARBAGE! If you believe that racism isnt still alive you need to do your research on Clemson University, and how their students chose to have a racist party on the weekend of Martin Luther King, Jr.'s birthday dressed in costumes depicting all of their negative stereotypical images of African Americans, one image that I ESPECIALLY found disturbing is how white students went running around in BLACK FACE; How ignorant can someone be?!? Do they NOT know that it was likely that their ancestors OWNED slaves?!? I think they dont know and its about time someone gave them a cold slap in the face and aware them of reality.
Affirmative Action is being struck down all over the place and without it, statistics show that minority enrollment in the higher education areas (college) has decreased significantly. To go ahead and say that African Americans should take advantage of their rights is only one way of viewing things; THIS COUNTRY AT ONE TIME AUTHORIZED SLAVERY!! And when it ended it took about 100 more years before Civil Rights could be granted and when it comes time to repair the damages by creating Affirmative Action, people want to strike it down. My personal opinion is that this country brought African Americans over here as slaves and since they brought us here, tortured us for nearly 400 years, I think its time for the BIG PAYBACK, and Affirmative Action is doing just that. Many may turn around and say "wait....thats reverse discrimination, we cant do that...", blacks have been calling out discrimination since they were freed from slavery and even in 2007, it is NOT over.
Whether you agree with me or not, I say that you should have experience about a certain aspect of life before you go making judgments about it. So to these news casters, I recommend that they get exposed to the black community before simply making judgments about it because they are being nothing more than ignorant and THAT kind of crap does not belong on national television.
there job well in the eighties thats for sure.the reverse discrimination clap trap comes out loud and clear whenever you get people all riled up about black racism.......
the problem is that this bumbling rodeo clown and the rest of his henchmen make reagan and nixon look like liberals.and no liberals dont whine every time they dissagree
w/ the likes of faux network.there is just so
much about that "fair and balanced"network
to bitch about that it is overwhelming some
times......eat me righties!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-First of all, a boycott is not a method of totalitarian repression, rather an active choice not to consume/purchase the product of an organization you disagree with.
-As a journalism student, I have to agree that Fox's methods of presentation are biased (IE the stock footage that they use in telling a story). They also do seem to play on ethnic/religious tensions to create controversy and strife where it was not found before.
-As far as the editorial voices of the network go, none of the shows strive for or achieve reasoned discourse in their discussion of issues. O'Reilly relies on yelling and irrelevant attacks on the messengers patriotism or their supposed evil intentions in the machinations of George Soros, as does Hannity. Also, they tend to put sheepish or less vitriolic liberals against their conservatives. The liberal side tends to reemble the imaginary team that plays the Harlem Globetrotters to make them look better. The same pattern follows for John Gibson, Cavuto, and the "Cost of Freedom" Saturday economics crew.
-The content tends to be almost entirely soft news, and the "Fox News Alert" is abused to the point of absurdity. More coverage was given this week to the misadventures of the various celebutantes than to the ongoing Gonzalez hearings. A week ago, there was a Fox News Alert alerting us to the fact that there was a coyote near LAX. WHAT! Dogs live in large open areas next to easy food sources, especially in their native habitats?! But I digress. Still, this sort of non-news dominates the majority of the daytime news.
How, may you ask, have I come to these myriad conclusions? My family has always been among the Republican party faithful, and watch the Fox News Channel every day as the sort of white noise television that we watch while going about our daily lives. So I have grown up with the network since my pre-teens. I myself am a moderate Republican. I came to these opinions without even watching the "liberal elite" media, but simply in the vacuum of Fox News experience. I ask that you honestly evaluate Fox News and see it for the shrill reporting and logic that it is.
Sure, you can't see it outright. That's why it's "veiled" reacism. And sure a bigot will never admit his bigotry outright. That's what makes him or her a "bigot".
a) The little quip about "killing someone and going to get some chicken at KFC". Well, 'scuse me, boss, but can I's has sum ma'dea' (watermelon) wid dat? I always considered murder to be heinous in its own right. What does chicken and KFC have to do with anything?
b)Why the call for "more babies"? It's as though he was saying the white race is in a recruitment drive for more soldiers. But for what war? And as my wife points out, it's not blacks that are out pacing white births, it's hispanics. But hey, "all non-whites . . . you say 'toh may toh', I say 'toh mah toh' . . .
c)Oh, and lookie loo, they've got a black person or two to agree with them. I guess that means the entire black race is discredited on the opinions of two or three individual blacks. It's call "tokenization". It's the same as saying "I'm not racist, some of my best friends are (insert minority here)", and it's one of the oldest plays in the bigotry handbook.
I would go so far as to wager that if a neo-con were to say "the prophesied race wars must start now", Fox would be among the first "news" venues to back it up.
Now as far as disaggreing point of view, well . . . no one agrees with a bigot save another bigot. And there have been multiple movements and Acts in American history to make it clear to all that in a society of equals, the ideology of racial inferiority, for any reason, should not and will not be condoned or tolerated. Intolerance will be met with no tolerance. And to have an national media venue display such ideology and still refer to itself as informative and not entertainment should not be abided.
Funny how liberals only want freedom of speech for those with whom they agree? No more so than the neo-conservative belief that the freedom of speech doesn't exist - save for their punditry.
case in point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKC9WIDH6WY
lastdaywatchers.blogspot.com
You don't have to agree with fox. just don't watch their news EINSTEIN! bunch of hypocrites, you make me sick. If a man can marry a man and then get surgery to make himself a woman, turn lesbian, get himself turned back into a man, have a child with his lesbian lover, and then abort it WHILE smoking pot... then fox can say whatever the hell they want. deal with it.
From my experience, the percentage of black kids who didn't study in high school was much higher than other races, most likely due to the lack of parental guidance. Many of them were pregnant and having kids at the age of 15. Black young men were having babies with multiple women and not raising any of the kids. Unfortunately, many black kids don't have responsible, education oriented parents. I have seen videos of black fathers teaching their small children to be gangsters instead of teaching them to read and write and be a responsible citizen. This type of education will only put more blacks in prison and not in a better society.
If you are still reading this I would like to share a story of mine that may shed some light on my view . I live in Hawaii , its a mixing pot of ethnic cultures from all over the world . Asia , Samoa , Hawaiian , white , black , and of course micro machines .. you folks may not get that one . Anyways I am half jap and white , and have lived through times of racist even 40 years after WWII . I am very tolerant of many cultures and have been all over the world . A couple of months ago I went to China . Now I don't mean hong kong . I mean mainland China 5 hours inland from hong kong . You don't get there with just a passport . Anyways people there are very pushy and cut in front of you in line with just an 1" of space . Now hang in there i am going somewhere with this .. So when these Chinese people come to Hawaii are they still pushy ? No of course not ! Why ? Well they learn and adapt to our culture out of respect and not getting beaten up . So with that being said ... every time I come across a group of black men or women either shopping at Wal mart or at the movies or at a bar . They always talk loud enough to get attention . Now I am not being petty , they swear with kids around , hit on guys girlfriends ( seen it happen in front of me ) and act as they don't care if they are being disrespectful . Let me say stereo types are their for a reason , they don't just appear out of nowhere .
Almost out of here , just want to cover a couple more things . On the subject to being poor and held down from the white man . My parents were around during WII , being japanese they were treated like crap and all possessions taken away and sent to concentration camps . Has anything like that happened to black people in the last 1000 years ? Nope . OK now I must say I understand why the government did what they did at the time . ( brush up on your history if you don't know what I am talking about ). So I don't feel sorry for any black person , they have to live with racism just like everyone else . What makes the difference is how you strive against the negative racism and do what is right . Not make excuses and be lazy . After WII what did Japan do ? They busted ass to prove they could work and make United States proud to have them in their military . ( 442 unit was one of the most decorated unit made up of all japanese soldiers . They also became an economic power in the world . The same situations have occured with many other races through out our recorded history . However it is another story when it come to blacks .
Reading some of the post above I noticed people saying something in regards to " why are you talking about black America as being separate from America ? " Now this was said in a negative way .. meaning why are you trying to segregate the black people from America ? Well , black people actually are the ones who separate themselves from America and are proud of it ! Most of the things I read that black people post are just ignorant . I know a hand full of decent , hard working , respected black people who hate majority of black people they meet . Why ? Well that would take a while to explain.
I would lastly like to say something for all the black people that think the world is out to get them and everyone is racist . If all you black people think America is racist you need to look at yourself and at your " motherland " Africa . Africa has the highest murder , rape , aids rates in the WORLD !! The highest murder count against blacks is blacks . You figure it out . Is it just in America ?
Finally I would like to say there are ignorant white people and racist white people . But that is a factor in any race . It's when you have a race that mostly consists of ignorant , racist assholes is when you get a stereotype . Make a change for the better !
mr know the truth
still FOX and all it's employees need to be executed for jusice sake.
I know this will seem very condescending to most but hear me out. I am a white female. Growing up I lived in a predominantly black neighborhood, and attended a similar school. I was the minority in my school. There were approximately 500 students, 10 of which were caucasian, latino, or asian. This school was corrupt with drugs, gangs, underage mothers and other things of a similar nature. When I was transcending into high school my parents divorced and I opted to move with my mother and attend school at a predominantly white school with a 35% minority ratio. The same filth arose from the same groups. That statement may seem rascist but it is the truth. Now I know that we all share a spoon in the bowl of filth but we all know who eats the bigger portion. FOX news is reporting this to let it be known and give us as Americans a chance to do something about it.
It is so typical of people to be offended by the racial slander spoken by people of different color and then they turn around and refer to each other with these terms and refer to them as words of peace and friendship. I feel offended by the term "cracker" no matter who says it. Why should you deem your friends worthy of calling you "nigger" but others are being rascist biggots when they say it? Why do you accuse "the white man" of holding you back? It is your decision to drop out of school, have premarital sex and produce children at a young age. It is your choice to rely on state funded programs to assist your living. I am quite frankly tired of giving my tax money to you in order to help you be lazy. Get off your ass and get a job. Without "the white man" you would be nowhere. Maybe instead of thinking its rascism, maybe you should consider it's a little well earned gratitude.
The bottom line: the apologists don't think blacks can do any better. I understand this appraoch from guilty, latently-racist whites, but not from so-called black leaders.
Fox sucks, but the apologists do more damage.
People of non-color have LITTLE to NO understanding of what someone of black/brown/yellow/red {in some instances; i.e. the poster above me commented that she was bi-sexual} hue is going through in everyday life pretaining to racism. Bottom line.
Most of what I just watched was just saying that if you treat someone a different way because of the color of their skin then that is racism. people just need to understand that doesn't just go for misstreatment if you treat them differently at all it's racism. Affirmative action is in itself a racist Law No one bitches about it because it's only hurting white's. Now I could care less about affirmative action or the misstreatment of white's but you just need to understand that racism isn't just a black thing!
Beyond ignorance there is the inablilty of "conservatives" to think clearly. You cannot compare the political agenda of a news network with that of a political action organization and be intellectually honest. Of course, if you watch Fox News very much, you would likely suffer significant intellectual impairment.
I don't think there are many liberals who would censor Fox News. There are plenty who would not watch it or want to spend money with a business that supports it? Is that not our right, as much as it is Murdoch's right to telecast such garbage?
There are many liberal media outlets with libreal viewpoints: The Nation, Democracy Now, and Air America are a few. None of them present their views with the thuggish anti-intellectual bluster of Fox, not even close. If the Nazis had a TV network, it would have operated a lot like Fox News.
Let us not forget that they guy who owns FOX News has made it clear that they will report only those ideas that he believes in or supports the RNC talking points. This is FACT not fiction and if you do not believe me, read Murdoch's own words!
There were some blacks who had obviously been taught to hate whites just for being white. My sisters school was almost all black. Growing up there, we lived in the part of town that was very near the black communities, and had to walk to school. We made sure not to walk near the black housing project. We were not stupid.
Several black kids of all ages would chase my sister home from school. For no reason. She never fought in her life, and she was so nice. She was ridiculed by the black teacher when my mother complained. Not to say all of the black teachers were that way. One teacher was wonderful. But that does not excuse the other one. I was hit while walking to school only because I was white. So it goes both ways.
But I never hated blacks because of this. I actually always tried to see their side of things.
But as I get older, I am changing. I want to see the black persons side of things, but all I see is that they just won't move on, and won't do anything to make it better. (Some of them-not all). I resent the way that when the history of my town is reported, it is always one-sided. It has been written about in several major newpapers, magazines, and some books. This little town. But it was/is only the blacks who were reported as being mistreated or treated with racism. It is always someone elses fault. You do know, there are two sides to every story.
We were poor, too. So I was not an "elite". I knew what it was like to live in poor conditions. Although I know some of the blacks lived in poorer conditions than we did. And I have come to tire of the "racism" cry. I personally do not think there is that much racism any more. At least not around here. Yet blacks as a whole still will not do what they have to do. Some try. Such as Bill Cosby. And they are chastised by the blacks who don't like what they hear. The black community should look at other races that are successful to see how they coped. Such as the Asians, and I see many good people from the nation of India. They do not have the chip on their shoulder attitude, and are not always crying for equal treatment. They go out and make it anyway. And are respected for it.
Many blacks have a woe is me attitude. And an attitude of blame. Not all blacks. The ones who do not have this attitude are much more successful in life. Some are successful, but are still a huge part of the problem, such as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. So there are successful blacks who are still a part of the problem.
Sure, I feel sorry for the children of the those blacks who I feel are not giving their children a bright future, as well as I do for for children of any race that need a better future. But it is up to the black parents and communities to help them. There is only so much we can do. I am not going to bow down and say that I am wrong when I am not. For sins of the past. Even if I did, it would not change anything.
There is one thing that I have never heard mentioned, but I have often thought about. If I am wrong, then correct me. But wasn't it black people who sold the blacks as slaves from the original country? If this is true, then blacks should hate themselves for selling themselves as slaves. And there were good plantation owners, too. Not that that makes it better, but all whites were not bad. Also, maybe blacks should think about what it would be like for them if they still lived in Africa. With the Aids, famines, and slaughters, etc. If they would only see the glas half full.
Another thing, if blacks want to be a part of this country, they should stop saying they are African-American, and getting offended if they are not called by the proper terminology of the day. They should say they are American. They could be an American of African descent, but they need to fully embrace being an American and stop dividing the country. They are a part of this country. That goes for other races,too.
After all of these years, things are even worse. When I lived in that little town, and it fell apart, people believed that as time moved on, the black situation would improve, and race relations would improve. I think they are getting worse. Not racism, but relations. And I do think the typical black culture is bad for America.
Someone once told me that the worst thing that happened to blacks was public housing. At least in some large cities, for sure. Because they tore down their communities and built tall buildings, and took away their sense of community. I do not know, but I think they may be right. I do think that blacks need to stop looking to others to solve their problems. We have tried. It is up to them. They have to pull themselves up, make a decision to quit the whining, and make no more excuses. Just make themselves get over it. For their own sake. And make a decision. If they will not listen, then they cannot be helped. No matter how much Hillary Clinton or John Edwards say they will help. Their kind of help will be to the detriment of America. We do not need more welfare. We need responsible adults. I have heard it said by a black man that that is their culture. That it is just another way of life, the men fathering babies by different mothers, and not raising their children. As though we are wrong for wanting them to change. Well, then quit blaming it on us. Also, quit asking us to support you.
My home town has become one of the most poverty-ridden towns in our state. And in my opinion, it is largely held back by the behavior of many blacks, and many whites (what few are left). I have went to visit, and at a public store, saw cussing in front me, a customer, by the people who work there. As far as they knew, I was a stranger that came to see their little town. And this was obviously normal behavior for the town, since there was no apology or any sign of wrongdoing. In the town I live in now, the person would have been fired for that. But the townspeople are so outside of what is normal now. It was not that way when I grew up. It was a very nice town. What an image the town now displays for outsiders! And every thing is run on grants and public aid, so many young mothers with many children. And panhandlers, and destruction. And then all the townspeople do is complain that they are not treated fairly by others, and they blame their problems on others. They cannot get over the "discrimination". Which I do believe has happened in the past, especially in southern communities. That is what hold them back. It was a wonderful town, full of history, and it has been destroyed. People I know are afraid to drive through town, much less visit. But now, they are doing it to themselves.
Anyone find THAT offensive/racist?
heres the deal Theres a HomeDepot in Rockaway NJ. we need to all have a protest in the parking lot on Sept 11 2007. this will give us enough time to gather people and its on a significant day. Meet there at noon. after that rally well go to as many homedepots in the surounding area. and then others will preform the same acts in nearby states. And as for this "Go FOx" Fellow. You need to calm down. And Our people talking like this "Ay y0 W3 n33d t0 m33t up n G3t s0m3 (hi(k3n" on websites that just makes us look less intelligent and well be less respected.
To listen to these folks you'd never know black Americans have a strong middle class. There are 2 black American billionaires in this country. There are black CEOs in this country. There are black owned banks in this country. There are black educators, doctors, lawyers, nurses, engineers, IT Professionals, entrepreneurs, etc in this country.
Nope the image that is hammered home about blacks is criminal, crackhead, etc. Rarely is there a positive report about blacks.
Conversely, reports on whites rarely highlight the negatives. We rarely hear about trailer trash on the news. The only time you'd know whites commit crimes in this country is when he kills his wife and kids, shoots up a school, rob a bank basically something so outlandish it can't be hushed up. But that is not reflection on ALL white people. But when a black person does something it is suppose to be a reflection on all black people.
Fox knows this and keeps the fear of black men going. I find it wild that whites would call blacks lazy when it was the whites stealing Africans to do work for them for free. In my mind that not only makes the whites lazy but cheap.
You have to admit though the psychology these slave owners used however many years ago is till in use to control peoples mind to fear the black man.
I could break it down further but I'm out of time.
There are a much higher percentage of black people doing these crimes than are whites doing them. Check the statistics. There are many decent black people who do not constantly blame others. They take charge of their own lives, and are wonderful people. I work with some of them, and meet them out about town. The ones that want to overcome, can overcome.
If there are hard feelings coming from the whites toward the blacks, it is coming as a reaction to the way they see so many blacks squandering the opportunities they are given, which are largely provided by the systems and favoritism this government provides, and then still hearing the blacks constantly blame the whites for their place in life, when we know otherwise. The blacks that stand up for their communities without pointing blame, will be successful, because pointless blame solves nothing.
But determination to overcome the root of the problems will. Blacks will only improve their own situation by stopping the hatred. And making the decision that they are responsible for their own future. And stop propogating the hatred. Till that happens, there will always be these problems.
But I am sure I am wasting my time. Some people do not have ears to listen, or a mind that will reason. All they have is a mouth to lay blame with. Until the black people are able to actually LISTEN, they will never hear.
And I totally agree with Paul H. and Beth.
You people do not know a "little" bit of how it is being black. Let me tell you what your snow white parents didn't tell you but however taught you, "RACISM STILL EXIST!" Maybe not in your honky doory white world but it does in mind. You right when you say Blacks need to get off their asses and start doing positive things with there lives. We need to rise up and wake up and then Just Maybe you people would start respecting us. Im a educated black woman, still in my twentys and I was a teenage pregnancy. Yeah, I did something with my life but I actually feel sorry for the blacks who let the environment swallow them whole because that could of been me too. Just because I have education, I'm raising my daughter very descently and I always live in predominately white areas "WOW" don't make me one of ya'll. I'm still discriminated against with all this nice characteristics going on for myself. I'm sorry but it makes me hate whites more! I try to judge people as individuals but white people are so phony it's not even funny. I can't stand being around them. I wish Blacks would wake up and we start making progress in positive directions because I would prefer to be around my people. Yeah you have those few blacks who are kissing you guys asses but I CAN'T DO THAT. I can work with whites, go to school with whites, and be civil with whites, but they will always put you in your place sooner or later to let you know that you aren't one of them! Only Blacks know how it is to black, not asian, not hispanic, not indian, or any other fairer skinned race, ONLY BLACKS! If racism didn't still exist than why are we commenting on this subject people? Yeah talk about blacks all you want but we slaved for this "BS" country for hundreds of years and never received a Thank You! A lot of Blacks are lost and it's hard to be found when know ones looking for you.
There are so many misunderstandings and faulty perceptions that are deliberately being hammered home to the American populace about black people that are distorted or wrong.
They don't have the same mind. No one person speaks for all black people. I would like to see a picture of a white woman shown whenever affirmative action is discussed on a news cast that would be more truthful.
Secondly, a lot of the people you show that give their opinion are on the station to do just that. On Hannity and Colmes, they don't claim to be neutral news anchors you just present the facts. They each have openly stated their political leanings and they use that to debate on their show. A lot of the other people who make these so called racial comments are guests. They are allowed to say whatever they want and it's not a reflection on the station. Fox brings on guests from all political factions and mindsets.
When you look at the actual news reporting on Fox, it is completely unbiased. And you can't just look at the stories they do, but also the way they speak about people and actions. On most other news stations, it is the words that the anchors choose and the way they go about a story that proves what they're really trying to do.
One last thing. Just because the people on your little clip say "black" instead of "african american" and state facts about blacks that some may find ugly doesn't make them racist. It means that they are willing to look at reality and call people out, even if it is considered politically incorrect.
If Fox is actually as bad as you seem to think it is, then people won't watch it. But since most of the attacks against them are lies, people can see through it. That's why Fox's ratings keep going up. Because people can get whole stories and make up their own mind.
This whole "Blacks are whiners" complaint I read over and over on this board is sad. Not because I hate racism, which I do, but because it is so ignorant. Yes there are some black people that want a handout, but let's be honest there are plenty of white people that want the same thing. It's just not newsworthy to show poor white people complaining. Those people really have no excuse. A white person can fit in easily to a world controlled by rich white people. A black person is visully different making it difficult. I think those who have successfully made it in a sea of adversity are to be commended and those that are struggling in the ghettos, that were created by white America by the way (look it up), should be helped by white America to make this country better.
The days of saying things like, "I've never owned a slave," are over. White America needs to get over this and realize that it does still sting the black community that they weren't invited to be here; they were forced to be here. Even today people are displaying this hatred towards black people. And telling a story about how you were abused by some black guy or some black teacher really breaks my heart, but multiply that by a thousand and you just might touch the surface of a black American's struggles.
Fox news is and always will be the voice of the corporate billionares club and I feel that no one commenting here is a member of that club.
I am white.
I'm not here to judge right-wingers for their views. However I just cant see the logic behind airing these stereotypes, do any of you really think that fox is going to solve the problems of American society by reinforcing racial stereotypes? Social interaction is a 2 way street; every time you accuse blacks of being lazy and not fit for work you are contributing to the problem. Even the most ignorant bigot will admit that it is more difficult for blacks to get jobs because they are viewed in negative ways.
Say whatever you want about blacks or hispanics or whatever but you are not going to find a solution by condemning an entire race into one stereotype, you are going to make the problem worse.
Thank you
My great-grandparents came from Germany and when they got here they lived in a tent with 3 kids until they could build their house. My other great-grandparents were also German and moved to Canada. During WWII they were kicked out and sent back to Germany, and eventually came to the US. You can't look at a person now, someone you may think of as priveleged and assume that they come from a continually priveleged background. My grandparents started off dirt poor, but worked hard and were able to provide for their 6 children, who in turn worked harder and could provide an even better life for their children. Success isn't instantaneous and it's not guaranteed, you just have to do what you do best, work hard, and pray for a better future.
PS. To Sumone up above, while I feel that behind your words you may hold some truth, those comments are unbelievably crass and inappropriate. If you ever plan on proving a point to someone, you are going to have to be much more articulate. You just sound like a moron.
I'm tired of people saying that "Black people just need to work hard enough, and that's the reason why they are stuck in the ghetto." The reason people are stuck in the ghetto is because parents can't find jobs that are willing to accept blacks, and since they have no jobs the children can't eat and sometimes the parents do drugs because they were exposed to them IN THE WOMB and cannot physically fight the addiction alone. Then when the children are old enough they try to find ways to feed themselves and the only way to make money at that age is to sell drugs to get food and decent clothes and they end up enjoying the fact that they finally have money in their pockets and continue to do it. I've seen it and experienced some of it in my life and I don't want it to happen to other families. That is why we need SOMEONE -- it doesn't matter whether Democratic OR Republican... just as long as they fight for ALL races to have peace among each other... because I've been hated by all different races because I'm mixed. I'm too white for some blacks and too black for some whites. I'm just stuck dead in the middle. The racism and slander needs to stop because it is just slowing the process of getting closer to a way of life where everybody is happy instead of most people fighting and arguing over which side we're taking and what race we are instead of who is the better fit for the job at hand.
But in many places there has been many black women raped by white men and blacks brutally murdered and reported missing and the judges and police just ignored the reports as if they didn't matter.
But I do understand that racism is everywhere because my white friends and I face racism from African American people in my neighborhood often just because our skin tone is light (remember I am mixed with white too).
And as a final comment I would like to say to the person who asked why more blacks don't go help out in Africa more if they are so concerned about their roots: They don't have the money.
This "articulate" comment is a classic example: he offers a patronizing, backhanded comment that implies that blacks are expected to be inarticulate, and then acts offended when called on his racist, thickheaded manner.
Bill O'Reilly's comment (the previous comment in question) is racist because he does not have the racial experience to make a comment such as "Look, he's articulate." Coming from him, it is demeaning precisely because he is a cracker. It is not a compliment, it's patronizing, and essentially saying, "...for one of you people."
It's as though he said, "Look, isn't Barak cute? That's a good little colored person! Ohhh, isn't he so cute? Look at that little smile on his face? Cootchy-cootchy-coo..."
The reason a black person can make comments and references, such as calling another black person "nigger," while a white person cannot, is that same experience. O'Reilly does not have the experience of growing up in a black household with people who were the children of children of slaves; people who have been beaten by cops; people who have been denied jobs for no reason; people who see whites tighten their grips on their purses and wallets upon seeing them. Context is key. This is why non-Jews cannot tell non-racist jew jokes, and so on. You can say you "went to school with them" all you want, but if you haven't been in that skin, it doesn't count.
For this same reason, O'Reilly does not have the contextual experience to make such overly familiar "compliments," because in light of his history, they come off as patronizing and back-handed, at best.
Along these lines, O'Reilly's speech is tainted before he begins, because he has a long history of involvement with the Republican party, as well as a demonstrated habit of shouting down any guest he does not agree with; and of ridiculing any such person who is not present as "stupid" or "crazy," thereby delegitimizing anything they have said or might say in the future. (This tactic has been widely used by the right wing in general; see the right wing comments above.)
I don't think it an issue of just the "black community" but an issue with every community that exists in this country. As the most powerful minority in America I think that we're also the most visible and therefore everything seems to be just about black and white. Just turn on your television, go to the movies and mostly what do you see in this country - black and white. A public official says the N word and their life is over but if they say the C word or the WB word, it's not treated as seriously.
I think this as well has helped to perpetuate some of the animosity amongst the other races. It’s almost like this country as a whole says that no one else is important. I can almost feel sorry sometimes for Asian people and other minorities in this country who kind of fall to the wayside. Still, for other ethnicities to try to decry and otherwise detract from what has always been and continues to be a very real issue in this country - racism - not just between blacks and whites but amongst all races, is just a showing of their personal ignorance.
Racism is alive and well in America. There's no denying it. I have faced it myself. I have seen it directed at others. I have come across people in the KKK in my life. I have hitch hiked through Sun Down towns as a teenager.
This is America people – where people have the right to think or do or say whatever they want (so long as it is within the law). You don’t have to like it. You don’t have to agree with it. Still, I’d just as soon rather that my news agencies conduct themselves within the bound of truth and impartiality (well as possible with human beings) reporting. If you’re going to report on one point of view, you should give other points of views (yes even those opposed to your own) equal opportunity. Unfortunately, most news reporting agencies are guilty of slanting. It’s your job as an intelligent human being to take it or leave it, to bother to educate yourself about the issue or to swallow hook, line and sinker whatever the first person you see who mentions something says.
The system is flawed and if all you do is spread negativity and complain rather than making some kind of genuine effort to effect change, you are as much a part of the problem as people actively involved in starting the fire. That being said, you many not agree with the people here but at least they have the guts and the drive to try to change something they see as negatively impacting (whether that be the case or not). Instead of coming over here just to shred them and perpetuate racist views, why don't you create a petition intelligently stating your opposing view…. but I guess that would be too much like being left wing for some of you.
I say, lets agree to disagree.
Grea.
the financial drought for the working american who toils at minimun wage has hit black and white, young and old, and we as a voting public don't get it. we continue to vote for tax breaks that benefit the top so that our drip, drip, drip keeps coming.
is the drip method a form of torture?
are we all out of our mind that we forget to include the economic conditions in our discussion about race in america?
why don't we scream together against the exploitive nature of our current system so that the bloke with his one room appartment does no longer have to house and feed those more desperate than himself?
we need a new social contract!
STOP FOLLOWING BLINDLY!!!THINK FOR YOuRSELF!!!
News and Journalism should be reporting the facts, reporting information so people can make a decision about the issues.
Fox has created a new breed of reporting, more of the "anti-journalism opinion column". They report the issues, but they also insert opinions about the issues. Therefor biasing you, and influencing you to take on their views, or at least hear them. Its not so much of a NEWS channel by traditional means as it is a megaphone for someone else's views and opinions.
The problem is people still think its news, they dont realize they are being told, or persuaded to believe a certain thing. Its done very cleverly and its harder for you to realize how much of their opinions they insert into their reporting until documentaries and websites demonstrate their tactics.
But, for those who like being a sheep and like the comfort of having their opinions and ideals formed for them by a corporate megaphone, keep resisting these "brave new" ideas and stay in the comfort of your middle-class home sitting on your couch watching Fox News.
Or you could start to question what people tell you, what the all-mighty television tells you, and even what websites like this tell you.
FOX IS NOT A NEWS CHANNEL, IT IS THE PROPAGANDA ARM OF THE FAR RIGHT. We give it legitimacy by calling it a news channel.
In the late '50's and early '60's, I remember young white people, well-intentioned and college-educated, coming into my neighborhood (in New Jersey) inviting the black family's to meetings at rented halls. They wanted to see what they could do to help the "Negro", I suppose. Well, it did not fair too well, because no one would show up. Why? Because everyone was too busy working and raising their families. You see, my neighborhood was a working class / blue colllar neighborhood. We did have people who were poor, but there were non-government entity's to help them. They were called "neighbor's". Most of the people migrated from the same southern community and settled in the same area. I could trace my family's history back over three hundred years. My great-grandfather was a slave and I hold that as a source of pride considering where my family is today. I , personally, thank God my lineage landed in America and not in Haiti, South America or wherever else slaves landed. Also, the church was the central social / political venue where you could get the news of the day. Opinionated and biased, hard hitting and to the point, no apology and, excuse me, "no spin". Fact: Black people don't like soft pitched, touchy-feely, heart-on-the-sleeve, piss-in-your-pants, back-pedaling bullshit. There's something about living a hard-scraped life that make's you appreciate honesty in life, because you tend to smell lies. Ask people who've survived pogroms of Eastern Europe, death-squads of Central and South America, the genocide of Darfur, Somalia and Cambodia, human right's violations of Tibet and the Middle East, etc., etc., etc.
Most Black leaders are not the one's you see- you know, the usual Sharpton / Jackson cartel and hangers-on. Most are behind the scenes, working in communities, trying to undo the current damage the has taken over 40 years to accumulate. Why do I say "over 40 years" and not 400 (or 500, or 600- pick a number...)? Because I use the 1965 Civil Rights Act as the litmus on how this nation should have entered the modern era of America, not to mention the changing world. Instead we backtracked and became a welfare-state , a new slavery for many, that has eaten individuals and families like a cancer and spewed them out to mental and physical misery. The gap between rich and poor is enormous. Add that to the realization that the population has grown immensely before we could get a grip on our social and economic problems, most industrial jobs are gone, family values and ties are by the wayside, and a decent education and affordable housing is out of reach even for the middle class- we are a nation in turmoil. Bashing people because they are of a different race, religion, political party--- or watch a different network !--- is pretty silly and self-defeating.
I've been a close observer of this nation for over 50 years now and if Fox News is a big deal, I must have concentrated on some petty stuff. I remember Murrow, Conkrite,Huntley & Brinkley, and others and how they presented the topical news of the day. Fox is tabloid. It's easy to trash. If it were a newspaper, (well, the New York Post is close enough), it would line the bottom of the birdcage. Does it take itself seriously? Not the point. Does it get viewers? Yep. Does it get dollars? Ahh, now you're getting there ! This video is laughable, but I can see where the producer thought s/he was making a valid point.
Try these video's for poignancy, then:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgJ9XeOMWYg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWQKjtEerYk
Well intentioned but it's more of a teaser. In fact, out of voyeuristic tendencies, I would be inclined to tune into those programs and see what all the hub-bub was about.
Some blacks need to be "put out there", because that's what they are about. They care nothing about their actions and the detrimental effects to a community at large. They only care about themselves. So be it. Let them go if they don't see the errors of their ways. But I don't and won't answer for every black criminal as I can't take credit for the individual success of any human being. Myself, I understand the message's of the black leaders I formerly mentioned. Self-reliance, self-respect and spirituality are at the top. Education, economic maturity (how to open and establish a bank account, for instance)and improving one's community (picking up a broom) are also valuable. I could say I have mine and to hell with everyone else, as many as my peers have. I could also have others, whether right wing conservatives or left-wing liberals, the Democratic or Republican Party, MoveOn.org or Fox News, put me under their thumb and tell me "what I need to know". I choose none, especially when it comes to race issues. The outrage and indignation by well-meaning white liberals may be real, but it is all window dressing. It has always been known that the white liberals who side with "the Black Cause"- or any minority cause, is an attention-getting act. Like the platinum, blue-eyed blonde who finds the most blue-black-skinned male she could find. Compare and contrast. It's a fetish, man. Consequently, white left wing liberals who join the cause are mad at their own. It's a missionary mentality. Some have visions of saving others they perceive as never being able to help themselves. Most in the black leadership understand that the "new Civil War" is still being played out amongst white people. It's not about saving black souls. It's about winning the "red / blue" war, period. But you still need a cause and blacks are easy. Every civil rights struggle looks to the historic black struggle as a model. Leftists are no different. The left has always enlisted black, going back to Paul Robeson. My family had "wobbly" (labor movement) ties in the '30's. It is why blacks seem to be reluctant to join anyone else's cause; and were so vehemently angered when gay's began to align themselves with the struggle of Rosa Parks. True it is historic, but not to be taken lightly. Poor lil' burr-heads-- after all, they're only Negro's. I don't mean to say there are not whites who feel a genuine disgust over what is happening to blacks or race relations in general. Usually they are young, educated, open to change, naive, and have a sense they could make a difference. You have to applaud that. But like a contact high it doesn't last forever. Where are all those young naif's that I knew 40 years ago? Hmmmm...in government, Hollywood, business ? Amongst my friends, whom some happen to be white, there is reasoned and lively debate about all issues, including race. No p.c., no passes, no stifling attitudes or apprehension about what words to say. Just honest dialouge. Hurt feelings? Sometimes. Brawls? At times. Late night, filbusters and talkfest marathons? Mostly, or until we get it straight. Look, either we can talk / argue / shout it out without running away or reigning blows on anyone, or be limp-wristed, p.c. emo-tonics,afraid of saying the wrong thing, so we don't say anything. If you take the former, then Fox News is merely entertainment and doesn't count in your otherwise orderly and mundane life.
I find blacks who are treated condescendingly more offensive. Incidently, I've seen more black guests on Fox , from hip-hop artists, to Nation of Islam reps, so the contention is that they only have wishy-washy, neebish black guests is not supported. If you want to see what and who we believe are the real offenders, go to:
www.hotghettomess.com
If we can change these sorts of attitude, then everything else is gravy. Not a cure to the many other ills, mind you, but the way others see you goes a long way. Perception is key. Action is a must. Otherwise, for the thousands of blacks who do legitimately succeed through hard work, that success will be, rightly or not, perceived to be gotten only through the largesse of others. Still,for those people, regardless of their affiliation who've always doubted blacks are capable of success via any means except through largesse; or are threatened by their zest to move forward, a bit of latent Schadenfreude reserves as a guilty, unspoken pleasure.
Ego cogito cogitatum.
lets see someone in your family die by an arab, and see if you still like this democratic b.s., in all the country countries they dont give the option to terrorists to go to court, they lay the law.
Of course he preaches the line for big business and their political cronies - that's where the MONEY comes from. The interests of big business is to make money any way they can, and that means reducing their fair tax 'burden'. That's why they refer to proper government programs as 'entitlements' - as if they're a waste. That's why we don't have universal healthcare - they don't care. That's why they've rolled back progress on environmental issues - they don't care.
So, it's US versus THEM. Corporations don't have a vote, so they use FOX to confuse us - and then they tinker with voting on top of THAT!
Pretty soon, we'll be attacking other countries for their natural resources - Oh, or should I say 'oil', I just remembered.....
Just remember who's side you're on.
because other than the fact it happend way farther back than u.s. slavery. they werent slaves, they got to live in their country, in their homes. really they just had to live under englands unjust rule.
I guess in the above example Fox is guilty of....not saying white people are always at fault for racism? Or that maybe some personal responsibility is sorely needed in the black community. How far we getting by constantly blaming whites BTW? Ummm yeah lets band together and shut these people up!(ever heard of turning the channel? Thats what your type usually SHOUTS when its something offensive to most of the country) Websites devoted to ranting and pathetically trying to relive the sixties protest everything mentality are a huge waste of time.You all parrot what you hear from your Kos', Michael Moores, and MoveOns. Yawn.Get some new material. The people choose this stuff snd only a total narcissist would think its solely some propaganda b.s. I'd say if Fox bothers you that much try your own station, but we've seen how that goes(air america). Not to mention if you want to see Repub bashing you have the "small, limited" choice of going to New York Times, LA Times, NBC, CBS(hell we'll even make stuff up on 60 minutes!), virtually EVERY movie and entertainer(count sympathetic republican portrayals, come on count em!)most musicians, not to mention every entertainment zine from rolling stone to GQ. But yep gotta stop that fox! And the best way to stop biased "hate speech" is with...biased hate speech.
Fox has been getting away with a lot of lies.
It is not a NEWS Chanel; nor is it respectable.
I believe that People who finished school realize that Fox is war mongering and viscous .
America used to be admired by so many Countries; now we are hated because we invaded a Country.
I am the wife of a disabled Veteran that served his Country 22 Years , but he was never a blind follower. He questioned his Commanders when he thought they where going the wrong way.
This Bush Administration is arrogant and don't want peace. And Fox goes hand in hand with the Bushwackers. I wonder how anybody in his right mind could believe anything that is on Fox.
By the way; when we go to VA we make them change the Chanel, because it is sickening just to see it on.
Our Military is spread so thin right now; here in the States. And the VA is getting the worst cuts under this Regime of Arrogance.
Fox would never say anything negative about the administration because they have their Head so far up Bushes ass.
Sad, how many people just don't get it
"First they ignore you, when that does not work they try to discredit you, then they attack you, and finally , you win". -Ghandi keep the faith people, ignorance ultimately has nothing worth while to stand upon.
1) The media in general has characterized Blacks and other minorities in a negative light for decades. Fox is not the first, but they are definitely the worst. This is one issue where the "liberal media" allegation is out of place, because the mainstream news networks are guilty as well. But once again, Fox News is the worst.
2) Brave New Films is not a news organization, so accusations of bias are irrelevant. The question is if they have offered valid criticism.
3) I've seen most of this video footage in better context, and I do not find the editing of this video problematic. Their goal was to make the point quickly, and I think they have.
4) Blacks who say exactly what White racists want to hear have existed since the civil rights movement. I cannot say where they come from because I do not know where they came from, I can only say that they have existed, and they still exist. This may be hard to believe, but there are some Blacks who participate in racism against Blacks.
5) There is more! Fox News and its hosts have a long history of doing this sort of thing. Bill O'Reilly said Blacks are better off since slavery back in 2002. Hannity is apparently buddies with white supremacist Hal Turner, who frequently called into Hannity's radio show without being bullied (If this is true, it is hypocritical in light of this "double standard" talk sponsored by Hannity).
I am someone who has pursued a higher education (going to grad school next fall)in political science and has lived in the South almost my entire life (minus the time I spent in Iraq and other "exotic" locals as an infantryman in our imperial army). I am therefore an expert compared to those of you who claim to love Fox and can't complete a grammatically correct sentence ( please read anything you mentally disadvantaged morons!). I know it really sucks when someone knows more than you but deal with it, losers.
So to the point...
The very definition of racism precludes blacks in America from being racist. Racism is defined as an ideology held by the MAJORITY that entails discrimination and oppression against a minority that is enforced by most if not all institutions of a society in varying degrees, and is also prevalent in the dominant culture. So let's examine this closely for those who are challenged intellectually.
Yes, some blacks are bigots who despise whites or Asians or Martians or anybody not black. This is unfortunate but an expected and predictable outcome of the racism against blacks in our society that has occurred as pretty much official policy for most of the last 500 years. As a minority within a minority these blacks don't have the power to enforce their bigotry day to day. Therefore...its not racist, period. Fortunately most blacks have much more capacity for forgiveness than I can fathom and don't hate. This is hope incarnate.
You might ask in ignorance, what racism against Blacks? This is the real crime of white racism in America. You who ignore the reality of what it is to be black in America are just as guilty as those idiots who believe being a patriot means wearing a sheet. Worse, you hate those whites like myself who lay all the institutional and cultural racism bare. We are truly traitors in your squinty inbred eyes, right? You are the same banal looker-ons who were responsible for the holocaust and yes, YOU are the ones who should feel ashamed of being white because it is you who perpetuate racism.
Racism in America is everywhere, everyday. Its the deputy sheriff in Florida who once told me that next time I should just kill the Black kid I was in a dispute with and he would "handle" the paperwork.
Its your local government ignoring neighborhoods when they suddenly become too Black to care. I've seen this everywhere in our glorious Amerika. But you would have us believe that its all their fault that the streets in those neighborhoods are not maintained, right racists?
Its the white girl in my Mississippi high school who was unfortunately seen kissing a black boy and was DEALT with by all the other white girls in her class in the parking lot after school.
And finally, its the snide little remarks that whites make when they feel safe around friends and family that are all white. We all as whites in America have known this reality but deny, deny, deny to save face for our acceptance of racism.
This might hurt your brains to read (not to mention your racist heart)but there really is no biological basis for race. You see it was all made up around the year 1600 to enable the slave trade. Until then there was no real concept of "race" as we know it. We whites invented racism and continue its enforcement to this day. That says enough in my book.
Oh, and the other commentator was correct, the ruling/ownership class in our society (almost 99% white)loves racism because it makes it so easy for them to STEAL from and OPPRESS everyone else. Divide and conquer baby, divide and conquer.
I think that the problems you're identifying are way more complex then you think. You seem to think that a black community can just stand up and get rid of all the drug dealers. Has that ever happened? Yes there are more black people per capital in jail then all the other races. Yes there are allot of black people in ghettos who are addicted to drugs. But this isn't because there black.
Everything happens for a reason. Black people where poor an deprived ever since the founder of the U.S enslaved them and brought them to the states hundreds of years ago. The truth is black people can't build better community's because they never have. It sounds sad when I say it but its the truth. Black people have never had the proper resources, support or proper media coverage in there whole history in the united states to be able to build strong community's. We take money from they're school's, we give them the lowest paying jobs, we accuse them of being the scum of the American civilization, we stereotype them when ever we can. And we expect them to rise and become our view of what is a proper American.
If you try to look at this whole situation with all the truth in you're heart, you'll see that black people have made the largest effort in having a peaceful and harmonious way of life.
They struggled before the civil war, before the great wars and they still struggle today. Yes the black community needs to smarten up. But they won't change if we don't change. They live in a world created by the white man, therefore the white man needs to change to accommodate the black man. If you don't like it you can forget you where ever born in a free country, but rather in a country founded completely on money and wealth and fear. Wait that's actually the truth.
P.S: I'm White
so many people in the world hate America? Why do we still think its ok to consume, use and abuse whatever we want. Its not obvious that I'm right, but I am. I just want people to be happy. We can do it because we have the money, time and resources. I realized that America is connected to the world. Economically and Culturally. So when the American people keep on making stupid ignorant decisions, its affects everyone, not just America.
I think that Americans are going to have to realize that their country isn't free anymore, that their country is controlled by big business tycoons and big banks. If I'm wrong I'll be the first person to admit it. All I ask is for people to inform themselves and be smart and aware. Inform yourself about what I wrote, instead of being so defensive. I'm not a coward, I fight for my rights.
I'll offer my 2 cents.
Paris, Lindsay, and Brittany are spoiled little white sluts. Hilton should still be the clink.
Vicks is a disgusting excuse for a human being, regardless of color. The man is a sadist.
Manson was sentenced to death originally, but it was commuted when the leftist judges made capital punishment, "cruel and unusual"
Dahmer confessed and got life. Unfortunately for him, life just a couple more years as he was bludgeoned to death in the prison shower. Good riddance.
McVey was sentenced to death and executed several years ago.
Tookie got what he deserved too.
That's my opinion. I did truly appreciate the measured tenor of your comments.
Peace,
Jesse
It all boils down to what Reagan did in 1988, bowing to pressure from the right, by abolishing the “Fairness Doctrine". The fairness doctrine was the law of the land since 1932. Abolishing the fairness doctrine allowed channels like Fox News and Rush Limbaugh to come to existence. Ninety two percent (92%) of radio talk show hosts now are right wingers. Public airwaves belong to the public and the fairness doctrine must be restored. Insist that the presidential candidates promise to restore the fairness doctrine and to bust the 5 media monopolies which control our thought process. Demand public finance of election.
Democrats, "Do as I say, not as I do."
It was DEMOCRATS who supported slavery and segregation.
It's Democrats who idolize a Klansman.
It's Democrats who think blacks should always play the victim card as an excuse for quota systems and affirmative action.
Rocky Lore-once again making his case for dumbest human being on the face of the earth. Hey Rocky Raccoon-with that brilliant brain in your head how exactly do you get through the day doing complex chores like brushing your teeth, putting on your socks, etc?
Cherry ain't no 'blackwoman'. HE IS a fat fucking drunken toothless loser sitting in his own urine and feces in his 1943 tailer in the woods of Mississippi.
There is nothing the black race can do or say that would ever compare to what the white race has done for hundreds of years.
You think institutionalized slavery and racism is so easy to get over when it still happens every day. Next time you have some pretty little blond in the news because her father has molested her since she was 8, and now she's 21. Tell her to get over it, it happened a long time ago and it should'nt affect her ever again.
Next time you want to make a stupid and ignorant statement such as there is no racism, choke it back down your throat. How in the hell would a white person know if racism still exists or not. That's just like me stating I know what being a bear feels like or a snake feels like. How the hell would I know, I've never been either.
I see that not one white person learned from 911. That's how much this country is hated because all the wrong it does to someone and turn it around and say its their fault.
If you are not of color, YOU WILL NEVER KNOW IF RACISM EXIST OR NOT. To you, it does not, to me, I DEAL WITH THIS SKIN EVERY SINGLE DAY, and let me tell you, IT EXISTS, IT EXISTS!!!!
i dont think they are being racist at all
Blacks are more racist than whites
And you make me laugh, you really make me laugh at your ignorance, hahaha.
just courious..i learned(heared) on cspan today that welfare was created orig. for the white male to avoid the bad feeling of not havin a job and only applied to minorites and women later
btw I watch fox but its grouped with the cartoon channel on my cable..it just lets me know how far and how much power some ppl have to spew their slanted views.
Im real tired of all this black bashing but for me there r 3 white americas..WA1 who know we have a prob and want to work it out..WA2 the owners of some of the dumbest comments on here and WA3 who like it when WA1,WA2 and black folks fight so they can rob all us blind.
Its funny..on myspace in the hiphop room everyday someone white comes in and just goes crazy whit the n-word tryin the get things started..any of ya white have that in ur chatrooms with the h-word?
n-word...look ppl u can use the n-word 2 different ways..u can tell if its in a good way or bad way..we need to work on it but stop tryin to make ppl defend it everywhere. I was on a corner in East LA,ca with a mexican dude..someone behind us yelled 'hey my ni66er' i turned pissed and the guy walked right pass me..wasent even refering to me
drugs..whats worse a drug company and the shit they do..(im sure their not the most honest ppl)..a housewife or rush l with tons of pills or a black sellin drugs on the corner..none
powder cocane/crack cocane..difference?
5 to 10 years jail time
-------- <-thats a starting line..dont compare me to u w/o one of thoes. Whites feel that blacks should just b some super race to overcome all things. But we still should better..it takes alot mentaly to overcome things. But the smarter we become, the more we will see and learn the..(yes the s-word)..System
.the more i learn..the worse i feel
/end rant
p.s. they employ Mr. Furman because he furthers their racist agenda.
"FOX uses those POOR HELPLESS NEGROES to be racist" Black people can't think for themselves so it must be FOXnews telling them what to say.
Douchebag hypocrites that think because they went to university with a couple black guys that aren't any on the streets slinging crack and carrying guns.
People are people, and when you refuse to acknowledge that people are doing things wrong because of their skin colour, you make yourself out to be just as racist as the haters burning crosses on front lawns.
Then, they denounce churches that actually try to alleviate these ills through "black family values".
This makes it seem to me that Fox News really is racist, because they want to stop black progress and self-esteem.
Maybe Fox News is thinking that a black church should have an agenda of "White family values".
How dare that man question the police! The police have never killed anyone they weren't supposed to, and never stole any evidene, or framed an innocent person. No, the cops never make mistakes, and as a rich white man, why should I care if they murder some black people.
THANK GOD FOR FOX NEWS
The hateful nut that runs this site doesn’t really want “fair and balanced” reporting. His “fair” is only one-sided: “Bush is evil. Bush is bad.” (I’m not a Bush supporter.) Watch FOX News & then tell me one major story that they do NOT cover. ... I’m waiting. ...
If you want one-sided, biased, hateful and disrespectful “reporting,” it is NOT hard to find and it is NOT on FNC. I don’t see you guys slamming them.
See here is the problem, black people think the whole world is out to get them and that we all owe them somehow. As if they are the only people to have ever been oppresed.
If thier is a lack of respect, this is why.
Try getting a job and actually do something instead of whinning about it.
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----RED CHINA NOW OWNS YOUR DEBT AND HAS COMPROMISED ALLLL YOUR MEDIA.
70 MILLION DEAD OVER THERE -AND CONTINUING SUPPORT FOR GENOCIDAL REGIMES ACROSS THE WORLD
----INCLUDING AFRICA.
-----KEEP BAULKING FOLKS.
-JUNK TV -JUNK TALK SHOWS -FOX -OPRAH -ONE AND ALL.
I'm black and don't see anything racist or attacks on blacks in these clips.
You should call it Fox Attacked!
Pot meet kettle~
"I've dealt with people like this for 20 years. They will get up every day, they will kill somebody, they will go have some chicken at KFC."
No racist at all, riiiiiiight? Please be joking. Did you even WATCH the video?
O'Reilly making statements about Sylvia's Restaurant being no different than others is a not so subtle way of saying that he expected that it would be full of ignorant people, and it 'actually' was not. Ms. Hansen, how would it sound to say that "I went to a white Catholic church and I was surprised that those people didn't worship the Pope. I was surprised that all priests don't molest little boys." That would be biased, right?
btw -You want smart kids -whoever you are
-throw out your TV. It works!